Episodes

  • 1.8: What Can’t Be Taken: Voice & Community with Lee Hoffman

    1.8: What Can’t Be Taken: Voice & Community with Lee Hoffman
    May 2 2026

    When voices resonate together, it’s not just to make music. That resonance can shake loose our bodies, our emotions, our relationships, and our power. Lee Hoffman is a professor of vocal music, choir director, and singer whose compassion, humility, and insight create spaces safe enough for everyone to use their voice.

    CW: Mentions of CSA, genocide, feminicide, anti-LGBTQ hate crimes

    Episode artwork "Medicine Series" by Kill Joy from the Justseeds graphics collection.

    Time stamps

    3:24 Choir culture, safety and sound

    14:14 Lee’s childhood in high control Christian churches

    17:50 – 19:10 discussion of child sexual assault and religion

    19:11 Homophobia, bullying and love as survival

    26:54 Teaching voice and anti-racism

    44:23 Singing as the doorway

    49:09 Cathy Roma

    52:19 Non-coercive leadership

    1:02:58 Voice as anti-fascism

    1:12:17 Silence as being with

    Links

    Lee Hoffman

    All Voices Choral Project

    Peace and Justice Choir

    Peace for Gaza by Katie Ailes

    Joan Baez “I am Noise”

    “Watch and Pray” sung by Tamara-Lynn Richards

    Cathy Roma

    Parker J Palmer A Hidden Wholeness

    Unschooling

    “All of Us” from Considering Matthew Shepard, Craig Hella Johnson

    AVCP Listen to Herstory: Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women

    Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women Khadijah Britton Search group

    Lila Downs “Cariñito”

    Canción sin miedo

    Poor People’s Campaign

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    1 hr and 21 mins
  • 1.7: Shifting to Trust with Supriya Narang

    1.7: Shifting to Trust with Supriya Narang
    Mar 31 2026

    Supriya Narang is a play practitioner, witch, neurodivergent unschooling mom, soap artist, and community organizer. Supriya shares how the expectations and humiliations of motherhood changed her personally and professionally. She offers practical tips about community building, a feminist manifesto on neurodivergent motherhood, and a guiding principle of trusting—and seeing—the most marginalized people in our communities.

    https://www.instagram.com/thismum.life/

    wellbeingwithsupriya at gmail.com

    Time stamps:

    1:16 Neurodivergent community building

    14:24 Play therapy

    24:06 From corporate a**hole to feminist humility

    41:02 Conflict and inclusion

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    52 mins
  • 1.6: "I'll Take the Demerit" with Rayne Depukat

    1.6: "I'll Take the Demerit" with Rayne Depukat
    Feb 16 2026

    Rayne shares a story about inner conflict, growing up autistic and surrounded by both disability rights advocacy and evangelical Christianity. They decided early on to “just take the demerit”: discovering that although it may sting, liberation is possible when—in an oppressive system of high control religion, ableism, and patriarchy—you decide to just get on with what you believe is right, regardless of all the ways the people in charge tell you that you’re wrong. Rayne is an ASL interpreter, consultant, and parenting coach, whose work is continuously informed by the Disability Justice principles and in particular disabled Black, indigenous, and people of color’s perspectives.

    “We can disagree and still love each other, unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist.” -- Robert Jones Jr.

    2:19 Learning ASL

    23:04 Leaving Evangelical Christianity

    34:34 Identifying as disabled and autistic

    41:57 Learning disability justice

    58:54 Practicing disability justice principles

    Rayne Depukat: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rayne-depukat/

    Disability Justice Principles: https://sinsinvalid.org/10-principles-of-disability-justice/

    Heather Watkins: https://slowwalkersseemore.com/https://slowwalkersseemore.com/

    Robert Jones at Son of Baldwin: https://sonofbaldwin.com/https://sonofbaldwin.com/

    Robert Jones' substack, "Witness": https://robertjonesjr.substack.com/

    New Hampshire-Manchester ASL Interpreting Program: https://manchester.unh.edu/program/bs/aslenglish-interpreting-major

    More on disability justice: https://stimpunks.org/glossary/disability-justice/

    Review of research on fathers of children: https://academic.oup.com/jdsde/article/26/2/187/6102075

    Research on hearing parents learning ASL: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10785677/

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    1 hr and 24 mins
  • 1.5: Mutual Aid with Andrea Schrimp

    1.5: Mutual Aid with Andrea Schrimp
    Jan 13 2026
    CW: References to child sexual abuse, religious abuse, and death due to systemic vulnerability. Podcast cover image by Dave Lowenstein, used under Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs CC BY-NC-ND Creative Commons License via Justseeds. Modified with podcast text. Dandelion Seeds: https://sacdandelion.org 3:05 Andrea’s childhood catching lizards and being a good mormon 10:33 Why she was invested in Mormonism, and what made her leave 26:19 What is Mutual Aid and Dandelion Seeds’ work 37:35 Advice for getting involved and finding community Help for survivors of sexual assault https://www.childhelphotline.org/ https://protecteverychild.com/ https://rainn.org/ https://snapnetwork.org/resources-for-survivors/ https://www.revitalizewellnesscounseling.com/blog/csa-in-the-church For leaving high control religion Steve Hassan’s “BITE model” https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model-pdf-download/ National Domestic Violence hotline https://www.thehotline.org/ Also see notes on Ep. 1 with Delia Other mutual aid resources: https://sacramentohomelessunion.org/ https://foodnotbombs.net/new_site/ https://www.radical-guide.com/listing/punks-with-lunch-sacramento-chapter/ https://www.sac-soup.org/ https://www.facebook.com/SactoPPC/ https://www.norcalresist.org/index.html https://www.deanspade.net/mutual-aid-building-solidarity-during-this-crisis-and-the-next/ More about Dandelion Seeds https://linktr.ee/dandelionseeds916 Dandelion Seeds is a grassroots mutual aid group working to provide food, water, survival gear, harm reduction, first aid supplies, and other small comforts to our unhoused neighbors in South Sacramento. We (Dandelion Seeds) do street meals on average twice a month, with supplementary runs in extreme weather conditions and for special occasions. We hand out home cooked meals, water, blankets and sleeping bags, Narcan, baby wipes and other hygiene supplies, tents, tarps, socks, hats, gloves, flashlights, first aid, condoms, harm reduction kits, books, reading glasses, pet food, firewood, and more. In addition to material needs, we make an effort to connect with the communities we serve. We spend time getting to know people, their families, their pets. We help with some basic veterinary triage and first aid, give basic general advice on pet and personal care. We listen. In 2025, Dandelion seeds handed out 2,571 meals, 4,258 bottles of water, 790 electrolyte or hot drinks, 95 tarps, 34 tents, 485 packs of wipes, 64 blankets or sleeping bags, 1,020 doses of Narcan, 1,529 harm reduction kits, 311 first aid packs, 11,129 condoms, 1,248 maxi pads, 2,236 tampons, 4,575 pairs of socks, 1,054 hygiene packs, 100 storm kits, 75 emergency food bags, and 50 hot weather comfort kits. We did 38 street outreach days in 2025, with 8 street team volunteers backed by a team of support from volunteers at home, cooking, sewing, knitting, building outreach kits, sourcing supplies, and, of course, making our work possible with money and supply donations. We’re back at it already this year, with 6 street meals scheduled in the first 3 months of 2026. If you want to get involved, send us a message! Or if you want to help with funding, there’s two ways to get money to us. The fast way is to send PayPal as a “friends and family” transaction. That puts money directly into our working account. https://www.paypal.me/DandelionSeeds916?locale.x=en_US Alternately, if you’d like to make a tax deductible donation, and/or set up a recurring donation, you can use this link to the donation page set up by our fiscal sponsor, A Radical Guide. All of those funds, less the credit card processing fees, go to us. It’s a little bit slower, but it’s tax deductable, AND when you set up a recurring donation, it helps us even more because it allows us to make plans for ongoing expenses https://www.radical-guide.com/dandelion-seeds/ And we’ve recently updated our wishlist. (We hate Amazon too, alas, they have the most functional wishlist feature for our needs. If you want to buy stuff for us from someplace else, get in touch and we’ll figure out the best way to make that work.) https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/2261OGZ8J8LBA?ref_=wl_share Let it begin with each step we take, and let it begin with each change we make, and let it begin with each chain we break, and let it begin every time we awake.
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    43 mins
  • In Memory of Renee Nichole Macklin Good

    In Memory of Renee Nichole Macklin Good
    Jan 10 2026

    CW addresses gun violence

    Podcast cover image by Landon Sheely, used under Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs CC BY-NC-ND Creative Commons License via Justseeds, modified with podcast title text. Support the artist here.

    1:46 Statement from Becca Good published in the Minnesota Star Tribune

    4:39 “On Learning to Dissect Fetal Pigs” by Renee Nichole Macklin Good, read by Andrea Schrimp

    7:06 “Good” by Andrea Schrimp

    Sources:

    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/09/renee-goods-wife-releases-statement-about-ice-shooting

    https://poets.org/2020-on-learning-to-dissect-fetal-pigs

    https://www.startribune.com/she-was-an-amazing-human-being-mother-identifies-woman-shot-killed-by-ice-agent/601559922

    Where to donate:

    Monarca Rapid Response line https://monarcamn.org/

    https://givebutter.com/mntogether

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-south-high-school-families

    From Ashley Horan, UU clergy on the ground in Minneapolis: https://www.facebook.com/ashley.a.p.horan/posts/pfbid041T5hNt4Ro7YV4BiDWjYL6vD88PzrtEn4HJB7YHhtvq311sjvC1utyCsDe9tBmt1l

    MIRAC - Minnesota Immigrant Rights Action Committee https://www.miracmn.com/

    CTUL https://www.facebook.com/CTULucha

    Interfaith Coalition on Immigration (ICOM) https://mnicom.org/

    MARCH https://www.marchminnesota.org/

    United Renters for Justice - InquilinXs UnidXs por Justicia https://www.inquilinxsunidxs.org/

    Unidos MN https://unidos-mn.org/

    CAIR-Minnesota (CAIR-MN) http://www.cairmn.com

    Immigrant Law Center Minnesota https://www.ilcm.org/donate/

    Immigrant Defense Network https://immigrantdefensenetwork.org/donate/

    https://monarcamn.org/

    Further Reading:

    https://www.facebook.com/amightygirl/posts/pfbid0kKXgAJ13tkwKMqAcmJmFxnvsiB1aB2XGn9NPBmj6219JM8jp6rkGGkmbfMFz7wmyl

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/09/white-house-minneapolis-ice-killing

    https://www.404media.co/dhs-is-lying-to-you-about-ice-shooting-a-woman/
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    9 mins
  • 1.4: More K-Pop with Rob Cunningham

    1.4: More K-Pop with Rob Cunningham
    Nov 28 2025
    Show Notes Ep 4: More K-Pop with Rob Cunningham How does an experimental music aficionado become a K-pop fan? Always on the search for mind-blowing sound (see part one of his story in Epiosde 3), Rob reoriented to fun and living in the present during the pandemic. This led him to K-pop and its spectacular, dramatic audiovisual abundance. We talk about K-pop’s relationship to 80s music, Rob's favorite bands, originality, whiteness, politics, and joy as a compass. You can find playlists and reviews at his blog: https://theaquamarinelayer.blogspot.com/ Or on mastadon at: @toblaveistobluff@kind.social -- 1:54 Pandemic reset 5:10 Intro to K-pop via homeschool conference 9:53 Twice 19:48 Diving into the deep end 24:05 Connection to past music genres 28:34 Functional versus spectacle aesthetics 33:26 Girls Generation “The Boys” as a quantum leap 38:32 Fandoms and politics 47:54 K-Pop Dreaming podcast 53:32 Joy as a compass -- Key links K-pop homeschool: https://www.instagram.com/kpophomeschool/ Twice “Jelly Jelly”: https://youtu.be/WuLQ5iV3Q64 Dreamcatcher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QD0FeZyDtQ Red Velvet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBnGBb1wg98 Girls Generation “I got a boy”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq7ftOZBy0E About “I got a boy”: https://web.archive.org/web/20230120020946/https://www.mtv.com/news/nol58l/girls-generation-i-got-a-boy-new-retro K-Pop Dreaming Podcast: https://laist.com/podcasts/california-love Maid: https://www.netflix.com/title/81166770 -- More links Homeschool conference: https://www.hsc.org/ YP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JYP_Entertainment Itzy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zndvqTc4P9I Black pink: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S24-y0Ij3Y Ministry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2MH5c2sTvc Guy Debord: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectacle_(critical_theory) Girls Generation “The Boys”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pA_Tou-DPI Exo “Mama”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH6ZwnqZ7Wo Loona https://youtu.be/zW-AIXAnLcE NewJeans https://youtu.be/js1CtxSY38I On BTS “Not Today”: https://muish.wordpress.com/2015/12/06/bts-baepsae-english-translation-ramblings/ Politics: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/22/arts/music/k-pop-fans-trump-politics.html?unlocked_article_code=1.4E8.mhXf.l7jYUvwCUm-q\&smid=url-share “Flawless”: https://www.npr.org/2023/05/22/1177477181/beauty-culture-in-south-korea-reveals-a-grim-future-in-flawless K-pop and feminism: https://web.archive.org/web/20211213160637/https://catapult.co/stories/dear-irene-im-still-learning-how-to-be-a-feminist-too-k-pop-fan-giaae-kwon
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    57 mins
  • 1.3: Pure Sound with Rob Cunningham

    1.3: Pure Sound with Rob Cunningham
    Nov 26 2025

    Show Notes for Ep 3: Pure Sound with Rob Cunningham

    Rob has been searching for innovative, mind-blowing sounds ever since he was a little kid watching MTV in 1980s suburban Los Angeles. He tells his story of searching through rap, goth, metal, punk, industrial, electronic, experimental, 80s, and classical music. In part two we'll talk about kpop.

    You can find playlists and reviews at his blog: https://theaquamarinelayer.blogspot.com/

    Or on mastadon at: @toblaveistobluff@kind.social

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    2:10 Thriller, Gangster Rap, Punk, Goth, Industrial, Electronic

    5:53 Nine Inch Nails

    7:45 Subcultures

    14:08 Accessing music

    18:11 Usenet, the changing internet, lull in the 2000s

    22:02 “Have your kids shocked you with their music?”

    26:55 KDVS radio

    28:51 Losing a sense of direction in the musical archive

    32:45 Pop sneaks in: 80s, Taylor Swift, and Spice Girls

    40:22 Fandoms

    44:20 The search for pure sound vs. big productions

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    Key links

    Thriller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson%27s_Thriller_(music_video)Run DMC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19tjJ0G-8V4

    Nine Inch Nails https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak7BQaaizlM

    Nurse with Wound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1efx5baXO-4

    Helene Grimaud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujO9p1u70Ac

    KDVS: (22-23) www.kdvs.org

    Taylor Swift Reputation tour https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBk4xPhag-gT__wpprfT-7kTz7Wvl7oLF

    Spice World https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_World_(film)

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    More links

    Beastie Boys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkIB7YHbvc8

    NWA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZuxPKUVGiw

    Eazy-E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYn6Vz9X0VQ

    Public Enemy https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP1lC0FnuI0L5mKZdSVAazv8Os0gk82DX

    Merzbow https://merzbow.bandcamp.com/album/pulse-demon

    Aube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpis9vRJmtM\&t=2313s

    Incapacitants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSG3m5ujegA

    Autechre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMT_NmagvZ8

    Aphex Twin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwAngCPxnHQ
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  • 1.2: "Just People" with Sue Patterson of Unschooling Mom2Mom

    1.2: "Just People" with Sue Patterson of Unschooling Mom2Mom
    Nov 6 2025

    Who is a "typical suburban mom"? And what if they were never taught to people please? I talk to Sue Patterson about showing up authentically, partnering with your kids, and using your voice—even when it’s shaky. In many different spaces, from facebook groups to the school cafeteria, Sue meets people where they are, right now. Sue is a coach and podcaster whose website, Unschooling Mom2Mom, offers an accessible entry point for new unschooling families.

    2:19: Defining unschooling 7:10 Journey to unschooling and living in the present 19:39 Sue’s background as an outspoken kid and psychiatric nurse 24:08 Changing culture by creating Unschooling Mom2Mom 41:33 Political speech and the typical suburban mom 58:28 Sue’s guiding principals

    Unschooling Mom2Mom https://www.unschoolingmom2mom.com/

    Sue’s podcast with quick unschooling tips https://www.unschoolingmom2mom.com/podcast

    Sue’s substack https://unschooling.substack.com/

    Homeschooled Teens book https://www.unschoolingmom2mom.com/product/homeschooled-teens-book

    Strewing calendar https://www.unschoolingmom2mom.com/strewing-calendars

    Home Education Magazine https://openlibrary.org/works/OL9625942W/The_Homeschool_Reader

    The Unschooling Handbook: How to Use the Whole World as Your Child’s Curriculum Mary Griffith https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-unschooling-handbook-how-to-use-the-whole-world-as-your-child-s-classroom-mary-griffith/641440e51a6b16d8

    John Taylor Gatto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Taylor_Gatto

    Pam Sarooshian https://livingjoyfully.ca/blog/2016/01/eu002-ten-questions-with-pam-sorooshian/
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    1 hr and 1 min