• Show 1478: The Outdoor Prescription for Fighting Dementia, Depression and Heart Disease
    Jun 25 2026
    Too many of us are spending our days staring at screens. Little screens on our phones, big screens on the television, medium-size screens on our computers at work. Our modern lifestyles mean that we spend the vast majority of our time indoors–93%, on average. What is the time inside doing to our health? Is there an outdoor prescription to reverse dementia and depression? At The People’s Pharmacy, we strive to bring you up to date, rigorously researched insights and conversations about health, medicine, wellness and health policies and health systems. While these conversations intend to offer insight and perspective, the content is provided solely for informational and educational purposes. Please consult your healthcare provider before making any changes to your medical care or treatment. How You Can Listen You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream at 7 am EST on Saturday, June 27, 2026, through your computer or smart phone (wunc.org). Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on June 29, 2026. What Is Our Indoor Time Doing to Us? Humans used to spend a lot of time outside and had their circadian rhythms synchronized with sunlight. Living indoors as most of us do can disrupt that natural rhythm. Bright indoor lighting as well as our favorite screens in the evening can make sleep more elusive. Another consequence of focusing on screens rather than on a distant horizon of land, sea or sky is an increased risk of nearsightedness. Beyond that, screen exposure can increase the chance of brain fog, insulin resistance and immune system abnormalities. If you are spending all your time inside, your body may process that as captivity and begin to rebel. The Outdoor Prescription Dr. John La Puma pioneered culinary medicine, making the connection between what we eat and the state of our health. His analysis of the research indicates that spending just 17 mindful minutes outside each day can help reverse the damage we suffer from living indoors. He offers seven types of outdoor prescription, starting with morning light. Greeting the Sun as the Day Begins Dr. La Puma encourages us all to start our day by stepping outside for at least a few minutes under the open sky. Before coffee, before screens, morning light gets us off to the right start and helps us sleep better at the end of the day. That light exposure, even on an overcast day, helps us with deeper sleep at night. Deep sleep is critical for maintaining the brain with the glymphatic system as well as for bolstering the immune response. Before checking your email or your social media, perhaps while the coffee is brewing, make it a point to step outside for a few minutes. If that is too difficult, standing in the doorway or just looking outside through a window screen (not glass) may be enough. Bright morning light exposure is helpful in treating major depressive disorder (JAMA Psychiatry, Jan. 2016). Although the study utilized standardized indoor lights, natural light outside is brighter, even on a cloudy day. New research shows that bright light during the day reduces the risk of dementia among older people (General Psychiatry, June 24, 2026). The benefit was especially clear for those who spent more time in brighter light (at least 5,000 lux) such as one would get on an overcast day. It was even able to mitigate some of the risk associated with APOE4 genes. What Is Forest Bathing? Another practice in Dr. La Puma’s outdoor prescription pad is forest bathing. This idea comes from Japan. Spending time outdoors in a forest environment is extremely healing. It can help modulate the immune system, lower blood pressure and counteract stress. Forest bathing does not require a huge investment of time, either. One Japanese study found that spending just two hours a month in a forested environment can lead to lower blood pressure and reduce techno-stress. A review has found forest bathing beneficial against stress and burnout (International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health, July 28, 2017). https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28788101/ No Forest? No Problem Many people do not have an actual forest handy. Dr. La Puma describes his outdoor prescription for Sarah, who felt stuck inside her city apartment all the time while she cared for her elderly mother. What he prescribed for her was mindful time in the courtyard of her building, starting with very short periods of five to ten minutes. Gradually her heart rate slowed and blood pressure lowered and she began to recover from some of the chronic problems she had been suffering. Forest-bathing doesn’t really require a forest. One tree, or in a pinch, a shrub, can be pressed into service. Meet Your ...
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  • Show 1477: Answering Your Questions About Vision Problems
    Jun 18 2026
    Humans have five senses, but for most of us, sight dominates. That’s why vision problems are so distressing. Have you been dealing with difficulties with your eyes? During this broadcast episode, our guest expert is ready to answer your questions about vision problems. At The People’s Pharmacy, we strive to bring you up to date, rigorously researched insights and conversations about health, medicine, wellness and health policies and health systems. While these conversations intend to offer insight and perspective, the content is provided solely for informational and educational purposes. Please consult your healthcare provider before making any changes to your medical care or treatment. How You Can Listen You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream at 7 am EST on Saturday, June 20, 2026, through your computer or smart phone (wunc.org). Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on June 22, 2026. On this episode, we will be taking calls from listeners. You can ask your question ahead of time by emailing radio@PeoplesPharmacy.com. Or call 888-472-3366 directly between 7 and 8 am EDT on Saturday, June 20, 2026. Are More People Nearsighted? Myopia, the technical term for nearsightedness, is increasing at a rapid rate. Globally, 23 percent of the world’s population had myopia in 2000. By 2020, that rate had risen to 34 percent. Some experts estimate that it could reach 50 percent by 2050. Rates among children and adolescents are even higher in some places, reaching 70 percent among East Asians and an alarming 86 percent among Singaporean Chinese youth 15 and under (British Journal of Ophthalmology, July 2016). Why are so many people, including young people, myopic? Are there implications beyond a need for corrective lenses (glasses or contacts)? Can we reverse this trend by limiting screen time or encouraging more time outdoors? Are there treatments that can help children and adolescents improve their vision? Which Vision Specialist Should You See? Eyes are complicated, and caring for vision problems has become increasingly specialized and technically sophisticated. As a result, ophthalmologists (eye doctors) now often treat just one part of the eye, such as the retina or the cornea. Some surgeons specialize in removing cataracts. Others, like Dr. Sharon Fekrat, are expert in retinal surgery. There are also pediatric ophthalmologists who treat children. In addition, some people need to consult a neuro-ophthalmologist or someone who specializes in inherited retinal degenerations, uveitis or ocular oncology. How can you determine which type of eye doctor you should see to address your particular problem most effectively? What Is in a Complete Eye Examination? Dr. Fekrat will describe the elements of a complete eye examination. Why is each one included? What further steps are needed if trouble is detected? This will give you an idea of how vision problems are assessed and where to turn for treatment. Managing Dry Eyes One of the most common complaints is dry eyes. This condition is uncomfortable as well as common, affecting up to half of adults in the US. What are the causes? Are there treatments? People often use eye drops to alleviate the discomfort. Which ones work best? What can a person do if they have severe dry eye problems and are referred to a dry eye specialist with an appointment months in advance? Is it dangerous to postpone dry eye care? What to Do About Blepharitis When the problem is more the eyelid than the eye itself, doctors call it blepharitis. One typical symptom is crust on the lids, which may feel itchy or scratchy. Some people find that applying warm compresses morning and evening is helpful. Others need medication. You may have seen ads for Xdemvy, which is aimed at reducing the population of Demodex mites living in the follicles of the eyelashes. Mites are not the only problem, however. Sometimes bacterial infections are the underlying cause of blepharitis. Rosacea and seborrheic dermatitis that affect skin elsewhere on the face may also show up with the same symptoms. Topical ivermectin cream has been used off-label on the eyelid margins and may help reduce Demodex mites, but it is not an FDA-approved eye treatment and should only be used under an eye clinician’s direction because it is not intended for instillation into the eye. How Will the Doctor Diagnose Glaucoma? Glaucoma is generally understood as a condition in which pressure inside the eye rises and damages the optic nerve. This disease can lead to vision loss. That’s why intraocular pressure measurement should always be part of the eye exam. But this simple diagnostic technique alone may be incomplete. We’ll ...
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  • Show 1476: Tell Me Where It Hurts: A Roadmap for Managing Chronic Pain
    Jun 11 2026
    Pain is an important warning signal, helping you protect your body from damage. That’s why we can view acute pain as an asset. Chronic pain, though, can be debilitating. In this episode, a pain psychologist offers a roadmap for managing chronic pain. At The People’s Pharmacy, we strive to bring you up to date, rigorously researched insights and conversations about health, medicine, wellness and health policies and health systems. While these conversations intend to offer insight and perspective, the content is provided solely for informational and educational purposes. Please consult your healthcare provider before making any changes to your medical care or treatment. How You Can Listen You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream at 7 am EST on Saturday, June 13, 2026, through your computer or smart phone (wunc.org). Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on June 15, 2026. Managing Chronic Pain Nobody likes feeling pain. Joe remembers that as a child, he would ask the doctors and nurses if the procedure was going to hurt. They always lied and told him it would not. As a result, he ended up not trusting them. We often think of pain as located in the body part that hurts (hence, tell me where it hurts). In actuality, though, pain is a complex phenomenon the brain and its interpretation of the situation at least as much as the body. That is why Dr. Rachel Zoffness maintains that pain is biopsychosocial–the result of three overlapping circles in a Venn diagram: biological, psychological and sociological. The biological circle includes our genetics, tissue damage, diet, sleep and movement. Psychological factors are never just psychological. The brain uses the same limbic system to process emotions and pain, so our feelings about our situation have a major impact on our pain experience. In the sociological realm, we find access to care, a history of trauma, and factors like racism or poverty. One result is that pain is incredibly subjective, varying from one individual to another and even from day to day. Another example of the power of the brain to generate pain is phantom limb pain. You may have heard of someone whose foot hurts even though the leg was amputated. Dr. Zoffness tells us about a boy with hand pain after a fireworks accident that resulted in his arm being amputated. The hand wasn’t there, but the pain was real. What Is Your Pain Recipe? In managing chronic pain, it helps to know what your pain recipe is. What factors contribute to a bad pain day? A few common ones are poor sleep, too much junk in the diet, lots of stress, too little movement. Once you have the recipe for a bad pain day, you may be able to turn that around to find the recipe for a low pain day. If you get enough sleep, does that turn down the pain dial? How about diet? We also discuss the power of self-hypnosis and biofeedback. If you can practice warming your hands up, as Dr. Zoffness has learned to do, you can also practice making yourself more comfortable. She shares another story of a teenager who suffered from crippling migraines, social anxiety and generalized body pain. He had not been to school in years, but taking very small steps at first–just standing in the sun on his front porch–he was gradually able to build himself a low-pain recipe. Taking the dog to the dog park helped him move his body and his brain started producing chemicals like dopamine and serotonin. Eventually Sam was able to return to high school, even graduating. Using Pain Medicines in Managing Chronic Pain Physicians have often learned that managing chronic pain is something of a prescription puzzle. Which drug will work best for this patient? A decade or more ago, the answer was frequently opioids. That’s no longer the case. As a result of the overdose epidemic, doctors usually try to prescribe some other type of medication. Two of the most popular are gabapentin and tramadol. When our listeners tell us about their experience with gabapentin, the results range widely. For some people, it seems to be a life-changing medication. For many others, it is lackluster at best, and for some, the side effects of brain fog, dizziness, breathing problems, edema and an increased risk of dementia are too much. Dr. Zoffness has heard similar reports about gabapentin. Her guideline for pain medicine is to try it for three months and see if it makes a (positive) difference. If not, ask the prescriber to help you taper off. Stopping any pain medicine suddenly could be a mistake. For managing chronic pain, people need a healthcare professional who can help them create a personalized pain management plan. For improving sleep, which is often a key ...
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  • Show 1446: The Science of Strong Bones: Lifestyle, Medication and Movement
    Jun 8 2026
    Are you concerned about your bone health? Do you worry about osteoporosis? According to the CDC, more than 10 million Americans have low bone density that makes them more vulnerable to fractures. For many older people, a fracture can be devastating, reducing mobility and possibly even leading to death. What does the latest medical science tell us about how you can maintain strong bones? At The People’s Pharmacy, we strive to bring you up‑to‑date, rigorously researched insights and conversations about health, medicine, wellness and health policies and health systems. While these conversations intend to offer insight and perspective, the content is provided solely for informational and educational purposes. Please consult your healthcare provider before making any changes to your medical care or treatment. How You Can Listen: You may have heard this interview when it was first broadcast on Saturday, Sept. 27, 2025. If you did not, you can download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post by clicking on the little triangle in the green circle. We have added extra information to these notes, but not to the interview itself. Strong Bones You may have seen Halloween skeletons or even chewed the meat off a bone that you then dropped on a plate with a clatter. No wonder we usually think of bones as hard, unchanging objects. Dead bones are. But living bones are quite different. Strong bones are constantly undergoing change. Scientists call it remodeling. One set of specialized cells, osteoclasts, breaks bone tissue down and recycles it. Another set, the osteoblasts, builds bone back. Ideally, their activities are in balance. But if the osteoclasts start to get ahead, as they tend to do while we age, that can weaken bone. The result is low bone mass, known as osteopenia, or even serious bone loss called osteoporosis. This puts a person at risk for fractures. Who Gets Osteoporosis? Osteoporosis may have been less common a hundred years ago or more, when many people had to do manual labor that put stress on their bones. That helps for strong bones, so today’s sedentary lifestyles can undermine bone health. Although we think of osteoporosis as typically affecting postmenopausal women, men can lose bone mass too. Medications may contribute to the risk for bone loss. Steroids such as prednisone or methylprednisolone are especially risky if taken for a long period of time. Androgen deprivation therapy for prostate cancer is a risk factor specifically for men. Wait–MEN Can Get Osteoporosis? Q. My husband and I have two friends with significant disability largely due to spinal fractures as a result of osteoporosis. One man was always an avid exerciser, including running marathons. Both men are over six feet tall and have always appeared to be muscular. My husband is shorter and is physically active, playing tennis and going to the gym regularly. Because of our friends’ bone issues, I advised him to request a DXA scan to assess his bone health. The nurse practitioner told him that it was not recommended for men. I am still concerned that he may be at risk for osteoporosis. Are there medical studies that determine the risk factors for men? A. The nurse practitioner was mistaken. Men can develop osteoporosis, as your friends discovered. Many medical guidelines recommend that men over 70 be tested with a DXA scan to assess bone health. If your husband has low testosterone levels or has taken medications such as prednisone, he could be at increased risk for a fracture. He would be prudent to have the assessment. Diagnosing Osteoporosis Doctors assess bone mineral density with imaging called dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry, or DEXA for short. Then they compare the results on the scan to the results they would expect from a 30-year-old person. Results more than 2.5 standard deviations from that could result in a diagnosis of osteoporosis. A person who experiences a fracture without trauma, such as falling from standing height, is also suspected and often diagnosed with osteoporosis. Non-Drug Approaches to Strong Bones: People who want to keep strong bones need to focus on exercise. High intensity exercise can be helpful, but brisk walking may be enough. Tai chi and yoga are also popular. If you have been diagnosed with osteoporosis, be sure to check in with your doctor before you start a new exercise program. Building balance and core strength without increasing your risk of a fall (and thus a fracture) would be ideal. Our guest expert, Dr. Kendall Moseley, says the jury is still out on technology such as vibrating platforms, weighted vests or vibrating belts. More studies should show how valuable these could be. Following a diet that supplies adequate protein, vitamin D and calcium is also crucial. If you must take a calcium supplement, calcium citrate may be well tolerated and absorbed. How Do Doctors Treat Osteoporosis? Physicians prescribe several different types ...
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  • Show 1475: Your Allergy Survival Guide: What Works, What Doesn’t, What’s Risky
    Jun 3 2026
    You may think of allergies as causing sniffly noses and congestion in the spring or fall. But allergies can go far beyond that. As Dr. Kari Nadeau points out in this episode, allergies can affect us from head to toe, including eyes, nose, throat, lungs, sinuses, skin and gut. In the most dangerous instances, the whole body is threatened with an anaphylactic reaction. That’s a medical emergency! One in three Americans will develop allergies at some point in our lives, so it’s important to know what works to control them. At The People’s Pharmacy, we strive to bring you up to date, rigorously researched insights and conversations about health, medicine, wellness and health policies and health systems. While these conversations intend to offer insight and perspective, the content is provided solely for informational and educational purposes. Please consult your healthcare provider before making any changes to your medical care or treatment. How You Can Listen You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream at 7 am EST on Saturday, June 6, 2026, through your computer or smart phone (wunc.org). Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. (Welcome, Huntsville, Alabama!) If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on June 8, 2026. What Are Allergies? We begin our discussion of your allergy survival guide with an explanation of what is happening during an allergic reaction. The immune system perceives some foreign compound, usually a protein, as dangerous even though normally it would not be. So it reacts by trying to flush the invader out by producing extra mucus. The turbinate sinuses can make one to two gallons of mucus a day, and naturally, it has to go somewhere. That’s why you might be congested. Having all that mucus in the sinuses can also encourage bacterial growth, so if the allergic reaction persists, some people have to deal with sinus infections. Emergency Treatment In determining what works, you need to know the nature of the reaction. If you have two or more organs involved, if you are having trouble breathing or if you feel dizzy, you may be in the midst of an anaphylactic reaction. What works for that is an epinephrine injection and immediate medical attention. This is potentially life-threatening, so you will want to figure out what triggered the reaction so you can avoid it in the future. Once someone has suffered one anaphylactic reaction, they should keep epinephrine with them at all times in case of another episode. Epinephrine comes as a self-injector pen or a nasal spray (neffy). Can You Spot Drug Allergies? In the warnings that are rattled off as part of a TV ad for a pricey new drug, we often hear viewers cautioned not to take the medicine if they are allergic to it. That sounds like simple common sense, but it also has a Catch 22 quality. How do you know you are allergic to a medication unless you take it–and experience an allergic reaction for which you might need treatment. Most of these presumably are immune system-mediated reactions, in which the body produces IgE. That is how allergies to penicillin or sulfa drugs work. Some drugs cause a different type of reaction, not IgE-mediated but dangerous nonetheless. Lisinopril is the most commonly prescribed blood pressure medicine in this country. Like other ACE (ACE is short for angiotensin-converting enzyme) inhibitor medications, lisinopril can trigger angioedema. This swelling can affect the face, lips, tongue and throat, where it can compromise breathing. The most insidious aspect of this reaction is that it can occur after the person has been taking the drug without problems for weeks, months or even years. “Red man syndrome” or infusion reactions in people taking vancomycin can likewise occur without warning. The last type of drug reaction is not actually an allergy at all, although people occasionally use that terminology. It is better described as sensitivity. For example, a stomachache is a common reaction to the antibiotic erythromycin. Some people are disabled by this abdominal pain and try to limit their exposure to erythromycin thereafter. What Works and What Doesn’t? Since the immune system is acting inappropriately to cause allergic reactions, treatment should involve immunotherapy. Eye drops can help eyes feel less itchy and irritated. Likewise, OTC nose drops or nasal sprays can often help the nose. The corticosteroid Flonase (fluticasone) and the antihistamine Astepro (azelastine) are good examples. During allergy season, some people find that a daily nasal wash (with a neti pot or NeilMed device) can help reduce the mucus and remove the allergens such as pollen causing the reaction. There are also oral antihistamines and inhalers for asthma. For ...
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  • Show 1474: Treating the Cause, Not Just the Symptoms, with Functional Medicine
    May 29 2026
    Over the years, we have spoken with scores of healthcare experts about chronic illness. Many of them attribute the problems to inflammation, which is after all a natural response to infection or injury. But not everyone has a system for locating and addressing the source of the inflammation. If you want to treat the cause, not just the symptoms of your disease, you might want to consider functional medicine. At The People’s Pharmacy, we strive to bring you up to date, rigorously researched insights and conversations about health, medicine, wellness and health policies and health systems. While these conversations intend to offer insight and perspective, the content is provided solely for informational and educational purposes. Please consult your healthcare provider before making any changes to your medical care or treatment. How You Can Listen: You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream at 7 am EST on Saturday, May 30, 2026, through your computer or smart phone (wunc.org). Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on June 1, 2026. What Is Functional Medicine? Many people have heard of integrative medicine. We asked our guest, Dr. Susan Payrovi, how this differs from functional medicine. (She practices both.) According to Dr. Payrovi, while both approaches embrace lifestyle therapies, integrative medicine may focus on individual organ systems, just as conventional medicine does. Functional medicine, on the other hand, is more likely to focus on how the body works. What functional systems are involved when a person experiences fatigue, for example? If there is a problem with the way the body produces energy, how could that be resolved? If you are dealing with a problem caused by underlying inflammation, you could prescribe a potent anti-inflammatory or even a medicine that counteracts the immune system’s response to danger by blocking interleukins, for example. Or you could search upstream for the disturbance that is causing the immune system to overreact. Going upstream to find the cause is the functional medicine approach. Sending the Body Safety Signals If inflammation is a response to a danger signal, how can we let the immune system know that the body is safe? Lifestyle therapies offer some powerful interventions, even though they may sound very ordinary. Getting adequate sleep can make a huge difference for the immune system and lower inflammation dramatically. Stress management is another potent non-pharmaceutical approach. Consuming a diet rich in anti-inflammatory foods or even medicinal herbs could also contribute to a sense of safety and reduced inflammation. The Silo Problem of Modern Medicine We have spoken with many people who have struggled with a disease that manifests in multiple symptoms. They end up seeing a variety of specialists who don’t seem to communicate with each other. NO tool manages every condition. Too often, specialists pay attention only to the specific organ that they are assigned, and as a result, nobody puts the big picture together for a long time. The hope is that functional medicine would do a much better job for such patients, including those whose suffering has an emotional, psychological or spiritual aspect. Functional Medicine and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome One example where patients are demanding more of their medical care is chronic fatigue syndrome. Conventional medicine has a notoriously difficult time treating such patients. Coaching patients on small but important lifestyle changes is one approach that functional medicine can offer. Pacing and learning to prioritize are vital skills for such patients. Dr. Payrovi learned a lot about the value of such approaches in dealing with her own illness, multiple sclerosis. Finding a Functional Medicine Practitioner People looking for a functional medicine practitioner can consult the Institute for Functional Medicine. The organization lists practitioners on its website, ifm.org. So does the Academy of Integrative Health and Medicine, aihm.org. This Week’s Guest Susan Payrovi, MD, is a physician practicing Integrative and Functional Medicine at Stanford’s Center for Integrative Medicine. Dr. Payrovi is board certified in Anesthesiology, Hospice and Palliative Medicine, as well as Integrative Medicine. She has additional training in Functional Medicine and acupuncture. https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/susan-payrovi. Her website is drsusanpayrovi.com. Susan Payrovi, MD Listen to the Podcast The podcast of this program will be available Monday, June 1, 2026, after broadcast on May 30. You can stream the show from this site and download the podcast for free. Download the mp3, or listen to the podcast on Apple ...
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  • Show 1473: How Music Heals: The Neuroscience Behind an Ancient Medicine
    May 21 2026
    What do you conjure up when you think of music? Perhaps you imagine a singer-songwriter telling her story. On the other hand, you might imagine a parade with a marching band, an orchestra playing an outdoor concert or a mother singing her baby to sleep with a lullaby. Regardless of the format, music acts on the brain in unique ways. Neuroscientists are learning how music heals and why healers around the world have integrated music into their rituals for millennia. At The People’s Pharmacy, we strive to bring you up to date, rigorously researched insights and conversations about health, medicine, wellness and health policies and health systems. While these conversations intend to offer insight and perspective, the content is provided solely for informational and educational purposes. Please consult your healthcare provider before making any changes to your medical care or treatment. How You Can Listen: You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream at 7 am EST on Saturday, May 23, 2026, through your computer or smart phone (wunc.org). Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on May 25, 2026. How Music Heals Dr.Elizabeth Margulis directs the Music Cognition Laboratory at Princeton University. This scientific endeavor is devoted to understanding how our brains react to music. One discovery is that music has a lot in common with infant-directed speech. It is highly repetitive with exaggerated pitch modulation. When people talk to babies, they may slow their words down a bit and raise the pitch of their voices. All of these properties make infant-directed speech a lot more like music than the rest of our everyday utterances. Caregivers around the world adopt this sort of “baby-talk” because babies pay attention longer when they do. Is music tapping into the same primal brain responses? Another characteristic of music is that it can trigger emotional responses. These are culturally conditioned; bagpipes do not have the same effects as Tibetan singing bowls. Howe er, the reminiscence triggered by music can be remarkably complete, putting us back in time not only to the place where we heard it before, but even to the bodily sensations that we experienced at that moment. Musical memories are exceptionally persistent. Older people with dementia who can no longer remember important facts about their own lives can often join in singing a popular song from their youth. The Downsides of Music Music may have social and political ramifications. Just imagine a chorus singing “We shall overcome,” and you will probably make assumptions about the singers and their values. As a result, we should not be surprised to learn that people may fight over music. Frequently entire generations have genre preferences such as hip hop or rock that are not shared by adjacent generations. How do we approach the music we love to hate? Can we understand how music heals even if we don’t like it very much or at all? Musical Daydreams Help Us Understand How Music Heals Dr. Margulis has studied and written about musical daydreams. What does she mean by this? As you watch a movie, you may appreciate the score. But even if you don’t notice it at all, the sound track influences how you understand the action on the screen. Likewise, when most people listen to a piece of music, they may create a visual to go with it. Dr. Margulis offers us an example of a snippet of music by Liszt that evokes for many people an image of a cartoon cat chasing a cartoon mouse. Needless to say, that is not what Liszt was thinking when he composed it, since cartoons did not exist at the time. Choosing Music for Healing Joe mentioned the unobtrusive but soothing music playing in the background when he has an acupuncture treatment. Dr. Margulis suggested that music activates motor areas of the brain, and that might help explain the benefit in this setting. We are still learning more about how music heals. This research may some day guide healthcare professionals in choosing music for their practices, even in the hospital. This Week’s Guest Elizabeth Margulis,PhD, is Professor and Acting Chair in the Department of Music, with affiliations in Psychology and Neuroscience. Dr. Margulis directs the Music Cognition Lab at Princeton University. Her research pursues questions that lie at the intersection of the humanities and the sciences. She was also trained as a pianist. Her most recent book is Transported: The Everyday Magic of Musical Daydreams. Her website is https://www.elizabethmargulis.com/about This link takes you to the publisher’s page. Elizabeth Margulis, PhD, Princeton University The People’s Pharmacy is reader supported. When you buy through ...
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  • Show 1428: The Hidden Power of the Unconscious Brain (Archive)
    May 14 2026
    In this episode, a renowned neurosurgeon shares what he has learned in decades of working to restore ailing brains. His new book covers a vast range of neuroscience. Our dilemma was what to pay attention to in all those options. In a sense, that is always the human situation. We are capable of conscious processing of approximately 200 bits per second (bps) of information. Our unconscious brain deals with as much as 11 million bps. At The People’s Pharmacy, we strive to bring you up to date, rigorously researched insights and conversations about health, medicine, wellness and health policies and health systems. While these conversations intend to offer insight and perspective, the content is provided solely for informational and educational purposes. Please consult your healthcare provider before making any changes to your medical care or treatment. How You Can Listen You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream Saturday, May 16, 2026, at 7 am EDT on your computer or smart phone (wunc.org). Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on May 18, 2026. (This show originally aired April 25, 2025.) The Power of the Unconscious Brain Our senses feed us a tremendous amount of information all the time, but we don’t have the bandwidth to pay attention to more than a small fraction of it. That’s where the unconscious brain is so valuable, juggling millions of bits of information while we focus our conscious attention on what seems important. One surprising outcome of the research on how our brains function is a re-assessment of what is going on when people are unconscious. For centuries, doctors thought there was really no brain activity while a person was comatose. Then, a few decades ago, a scientist was recording the brain waves of a patient in a coma. The activity was very peculiar, as if the person were watching a ball being lobbed back and forth across a tennis court. In actuality, a television set in the room was broadcasting a world championship match between Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal. The neuroscientist recognized that this individual was following the match and was not nearly as deeply unconscious as had been thought. Further research showed that this kind of unconscious brain activity is not uncommon. It may hold keys to determining who has the best potential for recovering from their coma. Freud and the Unconscious Brain If you hear the term the unconscious mind, you may think of Sigmund Freud. He really popularized the concept that some very important brain activity takes place outside of our conscious awareness. It still has a powerful influence on our behavior. By the way, if we recognize that our conscious attention is indeed a limited resource (200 bps, remember), we won’t try to multitask. Humans actually aren’t very good at multitasking; instead, we switch our attention from one thing to another. Some people can do that fairly easily, but for most of us, it is less effective than staying focused. Three Stages of Brain Development Evolution likes to build on what it’s already got in place, so it shouldn’t surprise us that we can track three different evolutionary stages to our human brains. The reptilian brain came first, of course, and is there as a base, operating mostly on reflex. It’s definitely an important part of the unconscious brain. The mammalian brain brings in emotions. The hormone oxytocin is relevant for this discussion. It is critical for birthing and nursing young. As it turns out, oxytocin can also be put to other uses, such as bonding mates together and creating friends. Finally, we have the primate part of our brain. We humans, like other primates, can exercise empathy because our mirror neurons allow us to relate to another creature’s experience. In fact, mirror neurons were discovered by scientists studying macaques and eating gelato. Listen for a great story! Speaking of empathy, we wondered about empathy fatigue. We started hearing about empathy fatigue during the COVID pandemic, when healthcare providers were overwhelmed by extreme demands with inadequate support. Research shows that “constant, repetitive exposure to the pain of others leads to empathy fatigue.” Lack of empathy can lead people to do terrible things. Wonders of the Unconscious Brain Our brains are full of clocks. To some extent, these are shaped by how we use them. Musicians who play percussion instruments can perceive time differences of just a few hundredths of a second. All of us are entrained to a 24-hour a day cycle, whether we observe sunrise and sunset or not. But if we are deprived of connection with that cycle, our internal clocks can’t keep good time, and our brains may...
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