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The Long and The Short Of It

The Long and The Short Of It

By: Peter Shepherd & Jen Waldman
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Summary

What do leaders, coaches, and creatives actually talk about when they think out loud together? Every Tuesday for eight years, that's been the question driving The Long and The Short Of It. Pete Shepherd (Australian leadership coach, former Head Coach of Seth Godin's altMBA, has worked with leaders at Google, Toyota, Woolworths, and the Australian Navy) and Jen Waldman (founder of NYC's Jen Waldman Studio, with clients in nearly every Broadway musical of the last two decades) take a small specific story from the week and turn it into a question or framework you can use today. Under 20 minutes. No guests, no scripts, no ads. Just two friends on opposite sides of the world thinking out loud about leadership, coaching, fear, feedback, imposter syndrome, creativity, and what it actually means to be human at work. 400 episodes. Subscribe to the Box O' Goodies weekly email at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.2026 The Long and The Short Of It Art Economics Entertainment & Performing Arts Management Management & Leadership Personal Development Personal Success
Episodes
  • Bonus Episode: We Need Your Questions
    May 14 2026

    In anticipation of Episode 400 of The Long and The Short Of It, Jen and Pete are asking for questions from you, our listeners, to answer in an Ask Us Anything episode.

    Do you have a question that you'd like Jen and Pete to ponder, to noodle on, to think out loud about on Episode 400? Head on over to thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/400, and submit your question.

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com

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    1 min
  • 398. The Eisenhower Conundrum
    May 12 2026

    This week, Pete coaches Jen as she navigates the urgent and important curveballs and projects that have been thrown into her life recently.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What is The Eisenhower Matrix?
    • How might we prioritize the urgent and important?
    • How might we move between periods of sprinting and periods of recovery?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

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    16 mins
  • 397. Thought Leadership
    May 5 2026

    This week, Jen and Pete noodle on the questions: Is thought leadership a teachable skill? And if so, how might we teach it?

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What is thought leadership?
    • What attributes does a thought leader possess?
    • How might we turn our thoughts and ideas into implementable and practical actions?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com. Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

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    17 mins
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