What does it really take to reach the highest level… and stay there?

On this episode of the Intangible Podcast, Chris Spencer sits down with WNBA veteran Marissa Coleman and professional fighter Camee Adams for one of the most real conversations we’ve had about mindset, adversity, and identity.

These two athletes come from completely different paths. Marissa knew early she was destined for the WNBA and went on to build a 12-year professional career. Camee’s journey didn’t even begin until she was 26 years old, already a mother of two, stepping into a fight gym for the first time . Two different timelines, one common thread—relentless resilience.

This episode goes beyond highlights and accolades. It dives into the sacrifices people don’t see, the mental battles athletes face, and the reality of chasing greatness when the path isn’t clear. From missing holidays and navigating life overseas to fighting through personal trauma and rediscovering purpose, this conversation pulls back the curtain on what it really means to grow through adversity.

For young athletes, parents, and coaches, this is a powerful reminder that success isn’t just about talent or opportunity. It’s about adaptability, discipline, self-awareness, and the willingness to do the work—especially when no one is watching.

If you’re trying to figure out your path, or help someone else find theirs, this episode will challenge the way you think about performance and what truly drives it.

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What does it really take to go from the end of the bench… to the Pro Bowl… to walking away from millions to follow your purpose?

On this episode of the Intangible Podcast, former NFL Pro Bowl tight end turned psychologist, Dr. Julius Thomas sits down with Chris Spencer to break down the intangibles that separate average athletes from elite performers.

Julius shares his unbelievable journey—from struggling as a freshman athlete, to switching from basketball to football late, to catching touchdowns from Peyton Manning—and ultimately stepping away from the game to pursue a deeper calling in mental performance and psychology.

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What does it really take to rebuild your life after losing everything?

On this episode of the Intangible Podcast, we sit down with David Meltzer—former CEO of Leigh Steinberg Sports & Entertainment, entrepreneur, investor, and one of the most impactful voices in business and sports today.

David opens up about going from the top of the sports world to losing over $100 million… and the mindset shift that brought him back stronger than ever.

This conversation goes deeper than business and sports. It’s about human nature, faith, humility, and the unseen intangibles that separate those who stay down from those who rise again.

From lessons learned working alongside legends like Leigh Steinberg to powerful stories about his mother’s influence, this episode is packed with wisdom every athlete, parent, and coach needs to hear.

If you’re chasing greatness—or trying to find your way back—this one is for you.

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