In this episode, Carlos sits down with Afro-Cuban artist, singer, dancer, musician, performer, and Omo Obatalá, TaDeo Asojano, for a conversation on cultural preservation, lineage, and responsibility.

TaDeo shares his journey growing up inside Afro-Caribbean traditions, running from them, and eventually realizing that art, religion, and academia were never as separate as they seemed. Together, Carlos and TaDeo explore what it means to represent living traditions with care, how performance differs from spiritual calling, and why curiosity must be met with respect, commitment, and accountability.

This conversation is about more than dance, music, or ceremony. It is about honoring the people who came before us, knowing when to sit down, and understanding that preservation requires more than visibility — it requires responsibility.

In this episode, Carlos and Cecilio discuss one of the most important relationships in Lucumí/Ocha: the relationship between godparent and godchild.

They reflect on their own experiences with godparents, elders, yubonas, and religious community — from nurturing guidance and lifelong mentorship to discipline, accountability, and learning through observation. The conversation explores what a godparent should provide, what a godchild should be looking for, and why this relationship should never be rushed.

Together, they unpack how the role of godparents has changed over time, the importance of asking questions, the responsibility of correcting with care, and why spiritual relationships require patience, trust, respect, and good character.

This episode is for anyone asking: What should I expect from a godparent? How do I find one? What makes someone qualified to guide others? And how do we preserve accountability in the tradition while continuing to grow?

Reflection Question: What do you expect from a godparent — guidance, discipline, availability, teaching, accountability, or all of the above?

In this second episode, Cecilio sits down with Yomaira Garcia Chiu Ochungere — Akpon, Olorisha, author, educator, and founder of Ipadapo Productions — for a deep conversation on lineage, music, ceremony, and the responsibility of preserving Lucumí tradition.

Born into the religion and crowned at two years old, Yomaira shares what it was like growing up surrounded by elders, tambor, misas, and a community where learning came through repetition, discipline, and lived experience. Together, she and Cecilio reflect on the changes they’ve seen over the decades: the role of the Akpon, the meaning behind the songs, the importance of spiritual development, and the difference between preserving tradition and simply performing it.

The conversation also explores Yomaira's current work through Ipadapo Productions, where she teaches Yoruba storytelling, song, meaning, folklore, and meditation — bringing the essence of Orisha tradition to communities in Miami, New York, Atlanta, and even Thailand.

This episode is a conversation about memory, responsibility, evolution, and what it means to carry tradition with integrity in a time when everything is more visible, more accessible, and often more misunderstood.

Guest: Yomaira Garcia Chiu Ochungere

Organization: Ipadapo Productions

Book: Golden Ripples

Topics: Lucumí, Orisha music, Akpones, tambor, lineage, meditation, spiritual development, Yoruba storytelling, preservation of tradition

Cecilio and Carlos sit down for the very first episode of Ile to Ile — an honest conversation between two Olorishas from different generations, different experiences, and different houses.

This isn’t a class. It isn’t dogma. And it definitely isn’t gatekeeping.

In this episode, they discuss:

• Growing up inside the tradition vs discovering it later in life
• What they thought they knew before initiation
• The realities of making Ocha
• How Lucumí traditions have evolved over time
• Community, discipline, and spiritual responsibility
• The difference between tradition and performance
• Why unlearning can be just as important as learning

From basement ceremonies in New York to modern-day spiritual culture online, this conversation explores the beauty, contradictions, and humanity within the faith.

Whether you’re deeply involved, just beginning your journey, or simply curious — welcome.

What did YOU have to unlearn? Let us know in the comments.