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Ilé to Ilé

Ilé to Ilé

By: Hey Russo Productions
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Carlos has been an olorisha for 21 years. Cecilio for 36. Together they’ve seen this religion at its most profound — and at its most complicated.

Ilé to Ilé isn’t a class on Santeria. It’s two men with nearly six decades of lived experience in the Lucumí tradition sitting down and being honest — about what they’ve witnessed, what they’ve had to unlearn, where they agree, and where they genuinely don’t.

Opinions formed by experience. Conversations that used to happen after ceremonies, in someone’s kitchen, between people who trusted each other enough to tell the truth.

Caribbean roots. Diaspora reality. No filter.

Hey Russo Productions 2026
Spirituality
Episodes
  • Cultural Preservation, Performance & Responsibility with TaDeo Asojano
    Jun 13 2026

    In this episode, Carlos sits down with Afro-Cuban artist, singer, dancer, musician, performer, and Omo Obatalá, TaDeo Asojano, for a conversation on cultural preservation, lineage, and responsibility.

    TaDeo shares his journey growing up inside Afro-Caribbean traditions, running from them, and eventually realizing that art, religion, and academia were never as separate as they seemed. Together, Carlos and TaDeo explore what it means to represent living traditions with care, how performance differs from spiritual calling, and why curiosity must be met with respect, commitment, and accountability.

    This conversation is about more than dance, music, or ceremony. It is about honoring the people who came before us, knowing when to sit down, and understanding that preservation requires more than visibility — it requires responsibility.

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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • Choosing Carefully: The Responsibility of Guidance
    Jun 6 2026

    In this episode, Carlos and Cecilio discuss one of the most important relationships in Lucumí/Ocha: the relationship between godparent and godchild.

    They reflect on their own experiences with godparents, elders, yubonas, and religious community — from nurturing guidance and lifelong mentorship to discipline, accountability, and learning through observation. The conversation explores what a godparent should provide, what a godchild should be looking for, and why this relationship should never be rushed.

    Together, they unpack how the role of godparents has changed over time, the importance of asking questions, the responsibility of correcting with care, and why spiritual relationships require patience, trust, respect, and good character.

    This episode is for anyone asking: What should I expect from a godparent? How do I find one? What makes someone qualified to guide others? And how do we preserve accountability in the tradition while continuing to grow?

    Reflection Question: What do you expect from a godparent — guidance, discipline, availability, teaching, accountability, or all of the above?

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    28 mins
  • Piedra y Caracol: Yomaira on Lucumí, Akpones, and Spiritual Responsibility
    May 30 2026

    In this second episode, Cecilio sits down with Yomaira Garcia Chiu Ochungere — Akpon, Olorisha, author, educator, and founder of Ipadapo Productions — for a deep conversation on lineage, music, ceremony, and the responsibility of preserving Lucumí tradition.

    Born into the religion and crowned at two years old, Yomaira shares what it was like growing up surrounded by elders, tambor, misas, and a community where learning came through repetition, discipline, and lived experience. Together, she and Cecilio reflect on the changes they’ve seen over the decades: the role of the Akpon, the meaning behind the songs, the importance of spiritual development, and the difference between preserving tradition and simply performing it.

    The conversation also explores Yomaira's current work through Ipadapo Productions, where she teaches Yoruba storytelling, song, meaning, folklore, and meditation — bringing the essence of Orisha tradition to communities in Miami, New York, Atlanta, and even Thailand.

    This episode is a conversation about memory, responsibility, evolution, and what it means to carry tradition with integrity in a time when everything is more visible, more accessible, and often more misunderstood.

    Guest: Yomaira Garcia Chiu Ochungere

    Organization: Ipadapo Productions

    Book: Golden Ripples

    Topics: Lucumí, Orisha music, Akpones, tambor, lineage, meditation, spiritual development, Yoruba storytelling, preservation of tradition

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    1 hr and 6 mins
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