I have three guests joining me on the podcast this week: Hayden and Jackson Paul, the creators behind The Stick of Joseph, a popular YouTube channel dedicated to exploring the ancient roots and cultural impact of the Book of Mormon and David J. Butler (D. John Butler), an accomplished author, attorney, and entrepreneur who serves as the Editor-in-Chief of Plain & Precious Publishing.
Hayden, Jackson, and Dave were in the UK to interview biblical scholar Margaret Barker, and I had the chance to catch up with them. We dive into the true purpose of scripture, the pitfalls of living in a hyper-digital world, and how to transition from a casual religious life into a deeply prayerful, authentic relationship with God.
Some highlights from this episode include:
- The Lens of the Book of Mormon: The guys share their perspective on why the Book of Mormon shouldn't be viewed as the "Robin to the Bible's Batman," but rather as the foundational lens through which all other scripture should be read.
- The Digital "Portal to Hell": A candid conversation on how the hyper-fast context shifts of modern social media are actively eroding our memory, destroying sacred time, and cheapening real-world human relationships.
- "Be Sufficiently Humble to Aim Sufficiently Low": Practical, brick-by-brick advice on how to revive a hollow or struggling religious life using incremental improvements rather than burning out on short-lived religious fervor.
- An Answer to Someone's Prayer: Jackson shares a powerful, raw experience from their studio parking lot about the exact moment he chose to stop trying to "wiggle out" of the Spirit's promptings and humanized his faith for a total stranger.
- Governed by Ten or Ruled by a Thousand: A breakdown of how society's shift toward secularism removes self-governance, inevitably leading toward a more heavily mandated and totalitarian world.
You can find more of their work at the following links:
- The Stick of Joseph: https://thestickofjoseph.com/ and www.youtube.com/@thestickofjoseph
- Latter Daily Saints: www.youtube.com/@LatterDailySaints
- Plain & Precious Publishing: https://plainandpreciouspublishing.com
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