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What in the Word?

What in the Word?

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"What in the world does that verse mean?" This show tackles the hardest Bible verses to understand. Each episode, host Kirk E. Miller interviews an expert guest to discuss a text in the Bible that is known to be challenging to interpret. They do in-depth Bible study and survey scholars' interpretations. By investigating the strangest and hardest Bible verses, What in the Word? gets below the surface to learn their implications for understanding God and living the Christian life. Subscribe and join us weekly on Spotify, YouTube, and other podcast platforms. Learn more: https://bit.ly/3DYhMjPPresented by Logos Christianity Spirituality
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  • Should One Pray to Dash Little Ones? | Bruce Waltke on Psalm 137:9
    Jun 17 2026

    Psalm 137 ends with one of the Bible's most scandalizing lines: a prayer that an enemy's infants would be dashed against rocks. It understandably troubles believers, and for skeptics, it's a classic case against the Bible's goodness.


    Does this cry for violence—especially against innocent babies—belong in what is supposed to be a sacred hymn book? On this episode of What in the Word?, Kirk E. Miller brings in Dr. Bruce Waltke to reckon with this troubling passage.


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    Outline:

    (01:27) Bruce Waltke Background

    (04:41) Reading Psalm 137

    (05:46) Why It Troubles Us

    (08:53) Common Interpretations

    (12:56) Imprecations and Justice

    (17:32) Law Justice and Mercy

    (25:13) Exile Context and Vengeance

    (27:44) God’s Enemies, Not Personal

    (31:01) Hyperbole or Literal

    (35:34) Blessed or Rewarded

    (38:11) Eschatology and Revelation

    (42:41) Messianic Reading in Psalms

    (44:21) Preaching and Application

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    47 mins
  • Why Was Jesus Baptized? | Patrick Schreiner on Matthew 3:13–17
    Jun 10 2026

    Kirk E. Miller welcomes New Testament scholar Patrick Schreiner on to What in the Word? to tackle the question: Why was Jesus baptized? John’s baptism was for repentant sinners, yet Jesus was without sin.


    They discuss the different interpretations of Matthew 3:13–17, focusing on what it means for Jesus to “fulfill all righteousness.” What is meant by “righteousness,” and how does Jesus’s baptism “fulfill” it? Finally, they consider the significance of the Spirit’s descent and the heavenly voice declaring Jesus “my Son.”


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    https://www.logos.com/grow/witw-jesus-baptism-fulfill-righteousness?utm_source=spotify&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=show-witw


    Episode outline:

    (00:00) Why Jesus Baptized

    (01:06) Meet Patrick Schreiner

    (01:55) Patrick's Book on Matthew

    (03:44) Reading Matthew 3

    (04:52) Matthew's Context and Israel

    (09:59) Why Baptism Is Tricky

    (12:49) Jesus Identifies With Israel

    (17:05) Fulfill All Righteousness

    (25:08) Matthew Versus Other Gospels

    (30:01) Spirit Descent and Sonship

    (37:57) Practical Takeaways

    (42:49) Final Wrap Up

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    43 mins
  • Did Elisha Summon Bears to Maul Boys? | Jonathan Akin on 2 Kings 2:23–24
    Jun 3 2026

    Jonathan Akin joins Kirk E. Miller on What in the Word? to discuss one of the Bible's most infamous passages, Elisha's curse that led to two she-bears mauling forty-two "youths" in 2 Kings 2:23-24.


    Was Elisha simply an irritable old man who couldn’t take a joke? How old were these “youths”? And what exactly does their jeer, “Go up, baldhead!” mean? This episode examines these matters and more, exploring the passage's meaning and significance even for today.


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    https://www.logos.com/grow/witw-elisha-and-the-bears?utm_source=spotify&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=show-witw


    Episode outline:

    (00:00) Elisha and the Bears

    (00:49) Meet the Guest

    (04:05) Setting the Context

    (07:07) Why This Text Shocks

    (10:25) Who Were the Youths

    (18:44) Bethel and Idolatry

    (23:40) Sponsor Break

    (28:59) Go Up Baldy Explained

    (36:56) Covenant Curses and Bears

    (43:58) Preaching Christ from Kings

    (52:41) Wrap Up and Next Steps

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    53 mins
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