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Unlabeled Love

Unlabeled Love

By: Violet S and McCartnie Rose
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A supportive, judgment-free podcast for spouses of gender expansive people, such as crossdressers—where love meets lipstick and real talk. Through honest conversations, shared stories, and expert insights, we explore identity, connection, and acceptance with compassion, humor, and heart. You’re not alone—and every relationship deserves respect, authenticity, and a little sparkle.Violet S and McCartnie Rose Relationships Social Sciences
Episodes
  • 016 - Exploring the Unseen
    Jun 3 2026

    McCartney and Violet discuss the internal struggle partners face when a spouse is a cross-dresser or gender expansive, prompted by a quote from Savannah Hauk’s book about mastering internal balance for peace of mind, body, and spirit. They describe challenges like redefining roles in a dual-gender relationship, balancing support with personal comfort, and communicating needs without guilt, especially around intimacy, attraction, and public presentation. They emphasize setting boundaries, moving at a manageable pace, acknowledging grief and anxiety, and avoiding shutdowns that can create hiding and resentment. They encourage honesty, curiosity, and seeking counseling, while reminding listeners that every situation is different and that the goal is personal peace alongside respectful negotiation.


    You can contact us:

    • email - unlabeled.love.journey@gmail.com
    • Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠UnlabeledLove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • Facebook - Violet S. Lee & McCartnie Rose


    Reference:

    Living with Crossdressing: Defining a New Normal by Savannah Hauk and Judith Swain

    Living with Crossdressing: Discovering Your True Identity by Savannah Hauk

    Gender 101: An A-Z Handbook & Exploration by Savannah Hauk and Selva Dragani


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    37 mins
  • 015 Evolution of "I'm ok with it"
    May 20 2026

    Violet and McCartney discuss what it really means when a spouse says they are “okay” with a cross-dressing or gender-expansive partner. Violet shares how her own “I’m okay” evolved and describes how a communication breakdown led to feelings of betrayal. They encourage baby steps, honesty without passive aggression, considering therapy, and recognizing that while couples should try to work through it together, it’s also valid to leave if it remains incompatible.

    You can contact us:

    • email - unlabeled.love.journey@gmail.com
    • Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠UnlabeledLove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • Facebook - Violet S. Lee & McCartnie Rose

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    35 mins
  • 014 From Keystone with Love
    May 6 2026

    McCartney and Violet reflect on seeing each other again at the Keystone conference, where they met listeners. They describe Keystone highlights, including workshops, the significant-other lunch, vending on the main floor, and their shared goal of helping spouses of gender-expansive partners feel less alone and more supported. McCartney and Deanne hosted a travel workshop about traveling in femme. They also share social moments like dinners, the gala, and dancing.

    You can contact us:

    • email - unlabeled.love.journey@gmail.com
    • Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠UnlabeledLove⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • Facebook - Violet S. Lee & McCartnie Rose
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    43 mins
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