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That familiar Monday morning stomachache might be telling you something. Dr. Andrew Rosen and Dr. David Gross sit down with pediatrician Dr. Celina Moore to explore what it really means when a child's emotions show up in their body — and how families can respond before things escalate.

Dr. Moore walks through how she approaches the classic school day stomachache: ruling out medical causes, recognizing patterns, and then asking the bigger questions about stress, separation, and fear. She explains why so many kids simply don't have the words for what they're feeling yet — and why that makes the physical symptoms worth listening to just as carefully as any other sign of illness.

The conversation also travels far beyond the exam room. Dr. Moore shares her ongoing work in Ghana through the Acoma M Tosso Foundation, which she founded with her husband — returning year after year to the same villages to build trust, address children's health needs, and tackle the deeper barriers that keep kids from getting care. She reflects on compassion, clinician burnout, and what keeps her connected to this work across two continents.

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Dr. Andrew Rosen and Dr. David Gross sit down with Dr. Ryan Seidman, a child psychologist and clinical director of the Children's Center for Psychiatry, Psychology, and Related Services, to talk about what it actually looks like to raise and treat a child who learns or experiences the world differently.

Dr. Seidman pushes back on the idea that neurodivergent kids fit neatly into any one category. Every child has strengths and weaknesses, she says, and understanding that changes everything about how you approach treatment, school planning, and even parenting itself.

The conversation gets into why public school evaluations can take up to two years in Florida, what private psychoeducational testing actually covers beyond just an IQ number, and how that data gets translated into real support through IEPs and 504 plans. There's also a candid discussion about what happens when the bigger challenge isn't the child at all.

They talk about screens, structure, the loss of the family dinner table, and why so many kids today are struggling to communicate and socialize in ways that feel new and alarming. Dr. Seidman shares that she's navigating some of this herself as a parent, which is very much the point.

The episode closes on what makes the Children's Center model work: not just the range of services under one roof, but the fact that the clinicians actually function as a team, communicating in real time, and treating the whole family, not just the child who walked in the door.

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Getting help sounds simple until you actually try to do it. Dr. Rosen and Dr. Gross walk through the less obvious reasons people hesitate, from shame and privacy concerns to the quiet belief that we should be able to handle things on our own. It’s not the same as going to a dentist or fixing a car, and people feel that difference in a very real way.

They also get into what happens once you decide to reach out. Insurance limitations, mismatched referrals, short treatment windows, and medication hurdles can turn the process into something frustrating and discouraging. Even finding the right kind of help can feel like guesswork if you don’t know where to start.

There’s a practical side to this too. Starting with a primary care doctor, ruling out medical causes, and looking for specialists who actually match the problem can make a difference. But even those steps come with tradeoffs depending on cost, access, and availability.

Underneath all of it is something both of them come back to often. Mental health is harder to see, harder to define, and easier to misunderstand. But people do get better. Even when it doesn’t feel believable in the moment, that possibility is still there.

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