Episodes

  • Unlocking Human Potential with Rita McGrath and Chris Shipley and Scott Barry Kaufman

    Unlocking Human Potential with Rita McGrath and Chris Shipley and Scott Barry Kaufman
    Jun 23 2026
    In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, speaks with fellow Silicon Guild Members Chris Shipley and Scott Barry Kaufman, editors of the upcoming essay collection “Leading for Tomorrow: Unlocking Human Potential in the Era of Continuous Change and Endless Possibility” which equips leaders with the skills needed for effective leadership in the modern era. 0:00 - Intro & Welcome 0:45 - About the Book "Leading for Tomorrow" (July 8th release) 1:07 - The Origin Story: Silicon Guild & Thinkers50 Collaboration 3:13 - Overview of the Book's 5 Core Themes 5:26 - Mindset Shift towards Collaboration & Adaptability 6:24 - Purpose & Organizational Values 6:45 - Learning as a Core Competence 7:37 - The Epochal Transition: From Physical to Digital World 8:33 - AI as Accelerant, Not the Cause of Change 9:16 - What the Book Teaches Us to Do in Uncertain Times 9:52 - Surprises During the Editing Process 11:15 - Advice for Young People Entering the Workforce 17:46 - The Decline of Traditional Corporate Employment 21:13 - From Transactional to Relational Value Creation 24:27 - Fear of Change & Experiencing Disruption as Loss 25:34 - The Information-to-Illumination Reframe (Sanyin Siang) 27:50 - Whitney Johnson: "When the Ground Gives Way" (Chilean Miners Story) 30:43 - Brian Solis: The AIQ Mindset 31:43 - Chip Conley on Wisdom as a Leadership Value 32:40 - The Importance of Empathy in Leadership 33:50 - Defining True Empathy (vs. Just Being Nice) 36:51 - What Leaders Actually Owe Their Teams 39:44 - What Readers Will Discover in the Book 40:22 - Coherence Among the World's Top Business Thinkers 43:13 - Wrap-Up & How to Pre-Order "Leading for Tomorrow" Listen to more Thought Sparks Podcast episodes on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thought-sparks/id1546758719 https://open.spotify.com/show/0xmTsYXMgTeielwZ0dGTSU Watch Thought Sparks episodes on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcyXT8iJkTSciUMe0me3L7Q Follow Rita on LinkedIn, Instagram, X and Blue Sky. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritamcgrath/ https://x.com/rgmcgrath https://bsky.app/profile/rgmcgrath.bsky.social Connect with Rita on TikTok and Instagram. https://www.tiktok.com/@rgmcgrath https://www.instagram.com/ritamcgrath.hub/ Sign up for her Thought Sparks Newsletter on Substack. https://thoughtsparks.substack.com/ Learn more about Rita, her books and ideas at RitaMcGrath.com.
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    44 mins
  • Leadership and Transformation with Rita McGrath and Sharmla Chetty

    Leadership and Transformation with Rita McGrath and Sharmla Chetty
    Jun 16 2026
    In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, speaks with Sharmla Chetty, CEO of Duke Corporate Education and expert on human-centered leadership, AI, and workforce transformation. 0:00 Introduction 0:57 Sharmla's Story: Growing Up Under Apartheid 3:30 Systems Change: From Personal to Global 10:27 Overton Windows & Tipping Points 12:51 The Global Economy: Uneven Worlds & Emerging Markets 16:22 A Once-in-a-Century Inflection Point (Carlota Perez's Framework) 21:41 The End of Competitive Moats: Strategy in the Age of AI 23:16 Strategic Centering: Five Ways to Define Your Company 26:18 Purpose, Ecosystems & the Role of Government 27:59 Trust as the New Currency 28:34 Remote Work, Human Connection & Social Capital 38:15 The Future of Education: New Models 45:37 Executive Education Reimagined: Duke CE's Approach 41:21 Do We Still Need Degrees? 47:05 The Care Economy & Kindness as a Capability 58:42 Distributed Leadership & Navigating Complexity 59:28 A Human-Centered Economy: Closing Reflections Want to learn more about Rita’s ideas and hear more of her conversations with business leaders and innovators? Listen to more Thought Sparks Podcast episodes on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thought-sparks/id1546758719 https://open.spotify.com/show/0xmTsYXMgTeielwZ0dGTSU Watch Thought Sparks episodes on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcyXT8iJkTSciUMe0me3L7Q Follow Rita on LinkedIn, Instagram, X and Blue Sky. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritamcgrath/ https://x.com/rgmcgrath https://bsky.app/profile/rgmcgrath.bsky.social Connect with Rita on TikTok and Instagram. https://www.tiktok.com/@rgmcgrath https://www.instagram.com/ritamcgrath.hub/ Sign up for her Thought Sparks Newsletter on Substack. https://thoughtsparks.substack.com/ Learn more about Rita, her books and ideas at RitaMcGrath.com.
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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • Rethinking Education with Rita McGrath and MacKenzie Price

    Rethinking Education with Rita McGrath and MacKenzie Price
    Jun 9 2026
    In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, speaks with MacKenzie Price, co-founder of Alpha Schools, about the limitations of the traditional education system, and what other educational models are possible. 0:00 – Intro teaser: raising adaptable young people and the future of learning 1:37 – Mackenzie's backstory: her own memories of schooling 3:17 – The "I don't want to go to school tomorrow" moment 4:36 – The root problem: one teacher, many different learners 6:16 – The Alpha Schools vision: academics + life skills + passions 6:56 – Alpha School's results and student growth 7:37 – The industrial-era origins of the school system 9:07 – Moving into a new era: information abundance and problem-solving 11:03 – The skill of learning how to learn 12:03 – Why base knowledge still matters in the age of AI + what the traditional model got wrong 16:05 – The 2 Hour School Day 23:01 – The foundation problem: algebra before multiplication tables 24:33 – Results for kids at all levels — 20th to 95th percentile 28:00 – Why ed tech alone doesn't work, and the role of motivation 28:57 – The distinction between Guides and teachers 33:37 – Jonathan Haidt's The Anxious Generation and screen time 42:26 – Teaching kids to use tools (including tech) for good 43:07 – Education at an inflection point: the question of scale and accessibility 45:12– Selection effects criticism — and the response 47:36 – Relationships with charter and public schools 52:38 – The relationship to failure the traditional system gets wrong 58:27 – Shout-outs, self-reflection, and accountability — even at age 5 1:00:25 – Where Alpha Schools is headed: expansion, summer programs, new models 1:01:52 – Closing thoughts and thank you Want to learn more about Rita’s ideas and hear more of her conversations with business leaders and innovators? Listen to more Thought Sparks Podcast episodes on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thought-sparks/id1546758719 https://open.spotify.com/show/0xmTsYXMgTeielwZ0dGTSU Watch Thought Sparks episodes on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcyXT8iJkTSciUMe0me3L7Q Follow Rita on LinkedIn, Instagram, X and Blue Sky. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritamcgrath/ https://x.com/rgmcgrath https://bsky.app/profile/rgmcgrath.bsky.social Connect with Rita on TikTok and Instagram. https://www.tiktok.com/@rgmcgrath https://www.instagram.com/ritamcgrath.hub/ Sign up for her Thought Sparks Newsletter on Substack. https://thoughtsparks.substack.com/ Learn more about Rita, her books and ideas at RitaMcGrath.com.
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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Getting Positioning Right with Rita McGrath and April Dunford

    Getting Positioning Right with Rita McGrath and April Dunford
    Jun 2 2026
    In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, speaks with April Dunford, expert on brand and product positioning, and author of Obviously Awesome, recently rereleased in its second edition, and Sales Pitch. Their conversation covers how good positioning unlocks value and helps to clarify organizational purpose. 0:19 – Welcoming April Dunford 1:59 – The Classic Positioning Statement and What Leaders Get Wrong 5:18 – April's Journey: Tech Exec → Consultant → World-Class Positioning Expert 6:24 – Software vs. Consumer Goods Positioning 13:00 – April's Definition of Positioning 14:45 – The Five Components of Positioning 16:44 – The Investment Banking CRM Story 20:07 – Discovering the 'Reason to Call' 28:11 – Misreading Who the Competition Really Is 29:03 – 'If You Didn't Exist, What Would a Customer Do?' 31:04 – Horizon Competitors: The Vibe Coding Debate 35:17 – 'We Can Only Sell What's on the Truck' 36:01 – AI Excitement vs. Where Customers Actually Are 38:25 – Telltale Signs Your Positioning Is Off 45:27 – The Positioning Workshop 49:13 – What Changed in the New Edition of Obviously Awesome 54:46 – Strategic Centering and Positioning 56:58 – IBM Software Group: Positioning Thousands of Products 59:51 – Where to Find April Dunford Want to learn more about Rita’s ideas and hear more of her conversations with business leaders and innovators? Listen to more Thought Sparks Podcast episodes on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thought-sparks/id1546758719 https://open.spotify.com/show/0xmTsYXMgTeielwZ0dGTSU Watch Thought Sparks episodes on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcyXT8iJkTSciUMe0me3L7Q Follow Rita on LinkedIn, Instagram, X and Blue Sky. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritamcgrath/ https://x.com/rgmcgrath https://bsky.app/profile/rgmcgrath.bsky.social Connect with Rita on TikTok and Instagram. https://www.tiktok.com/@rgmcgrath https://www.instagram.com/ritamcgrath.hub/ Sign up for her Thought Sparks Newsletter on Substack. https://thoughtsparks.substack.com/ Learn more about Rita, her books and ideas at RitaMcGrath.com.
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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Leading Incorruptible Organizations with Rita McGrath and Eric Ries

    Leading Incorruptible Organizations with Rita McGrath and Eric Ries
    May 26 2026
    In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, sits down with Eric Ries, author of The Lean Startup, to talk about his new book Incorruptible. They discuss what organizations beyond corruption look like, touching on financial gravity and fiduciary duty, and how we might move beyond making shareholder primacy to more holistic views of creating and assessing value. 0:00 Introduction & Eric Ries's New Book “Incorruptible” 2:11 The Legend of Sol Price & the Origin of Modern Retail 3:31 Shareholder Primacy vs. Fiduciary Duty to Customers 7:00 How FedMart Was Destroyed & the Birth of Costco 11:16 Financial Gravity as The Invisible Force Corrupting Companies 14:13 The Mechanics of Financial Gravity in Organizations 21:45 Redefining Corruption: Making Money Without Creating Value 23:46 Measuring Human Flourishing Instead of Just Profit 33:38 The Role of Government & Carlota Perez's Economic Waves 39:07 Mission-Controlled Companies and The Incorruptible Blueprint 44:48 Corporate Charters, Shareholder Primacy & the Public Benefit Corp 53:42 The Vectura Case Study: Value Destruction in the Name of Profit 1:00:23 Shareholder Primacy Is Already Over, and Other Reasons for Optimism Want to learn more about Rita’s ideas and hear more of her conversations with business leaders and innovators? Listen to more Thought Sparks Podcast episodes on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thought-sparks/id1546758719 https://open.spotify.com/show/0xmTsYXMgTeielwZ0dGTSU Watch Thought Sparks episodes on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcyXT8iJkTSciUMe0me3L7Q Follow Rita on LinkedIn, Instagram, X and Blue Sky. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritamcgrath/ https://x.com/rgmcgrath https://bsky.app/profile/rgmcgrath.bsky.social Connect with Rita on TikTok and Instagram. https://www.tiktok.com/@rgmcgrath https://www.instagram.com/ritamcgrath.hub/ Sign up for her Thought Sparks Newsletter on Substack. https://thoughtsparks.substack.com/ Learn more about Rita, her books and ideas at RitaMcGrath.com.
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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Beating Burnout and Building Culture with Rita McGrath and Jennifer Moss

    Beating Burnout and Building Culture with Rita McGrath and Jennifer Moss
    May 19 2026
    In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, speaks with Jennifer Moss, the Chief Research and Strategy Officer at the Global Wellbeing Group and the author of Why Are We Here? Creating A Work Culture Everyone Wants. She's an expert on what causes burnout, and what leaders can do to build workplace cultures centered on hope, purpose, and community. 0:00 Intro 0:17 Welcome & Introduction to Jennifer Moss’s Work 1:52 What Prompted the Book 2:37 The Great Resignation & Mortality Salience 15:03 Burnout: Still Getting Worse 15:03 The Purpose Gap Between Leaders and Frontline Workers 16:48 CEO vs. Frontline Experience 19:37 Hope as a Foundation 26:13 Learned Helplessness & Building Hope Skills 26:39 Purpose: What It Really Means 28:39 Rituals, Friendships & Belonging at Work 32:10 Building Community (Bowling Alone, Dunbar's Number) 36:28 Business Challenges: Compassion, Freedom & Openness 40:42 Why AI Hasn't Moved the Needle Yet 45:30 GDP & Measuring What Matters 49:57 Fertility Rates & Hope as Economic Strategy 51:45 The Lost Wallet Experiment: People Are Good 56:00 Reflections Since “The Burnout Epidemic” Book 58:47 What's Next for Jennifer Moss Want to learn more about Rita’s ideas and hear more of her conversations with business leaders and innovators? Listen to more Thought Sparks Podcast episodes on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thought-sparks/id1546758719 https://open.spotify.com/show/0xmTsYXMgTeielwZ0dGTSU Watch Thought Sparks episodes on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcyXT8iJkTSciUMe0me3L7Q Follow Rita on LinkedIn, Instagram, X and Blue Sky. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritamcgrath/ https://x.com/rgmcgrath https://bsky.app/profile/rgmcgrath.bsky.social Connect with Rita on TikTok and Instagram. https://www.tiktok.com/@rgmcgrath https://www.instagram.com/ritamcgrath.hub/ Sign up for her Thought Sparks Newsletter on Substack. https://thoughtsparks.substack.com/
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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • Reimagining Work with Rita McGrath and Nilofer Merchant

    Reimagining Work with Rita McGrath and Nilofer Merchant
    May 12 2026
    In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, speaks with Nilofer Merchant, co-founder of The Intangible Labs, and author of the new book Our Best Work: Break Free from the 24 Invisible Norms that Limit Us. 00:28: Context for the Book 3:56: The Birdcage and Why We’re Stuck 5:39: The Steve Jobs Moment: Power Voice and Being Unheard 8:58: The Trillion-Dollar Problem and Untapped Human Potential 11:16: The 24 Practices for Better Work 13:38: Fix the Room, Not Her: Rethinking Voice and Inclusion 17:45: Franklin Leonard and Power, Networks, and Reorienting Toward Purpose 25:08: Nilofer's Story: Arranged Marriage, Apple, and the Path Not Planned 31:09: Fighting for the Emperor's Pleasure: Power and Gender in the MBA Classroom 36:08: The Origin of Intangible Labs 40:01: Who Made Adam Smith’s Dinner? And Rethinking How We Measure Value 43:57: Small Teams, Ecosystems, and the Future of Organizations 46:41: The Big Picture Vision of Reimagining Work 51:18: Intangible Labs, Early Adopters, and Spreading Goodness Want to learn more about Rita’s ideas and hear more of her conversations with business leaders and innovators? Listen to more Thought Sparks Podcast episodes on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thought-sparks/id1546758719 https://open.spotify.com/show/0xmTsYXMgTeielwZ0dGTSU Watch Thought Sparks episodes on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcyXT8iJkTSciUMe0me3L7Q Follow Rita on LinkedIn, Instagram, X and Blue Sky. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritamcgrath/ https://x.com/rgmcgrath https://bsky.app/profile/rgmcgrath.bsky.social Connect with Rita on TikTok and Instagram. https://www.tiktok.com/@rgmcgrath https://www.instagram.com/ritamcgrath.hub/ Sign up for her Thought Sparks Newsletter on Substack. https://thoughtsparks.substack.com/ Learn more about Rita, her books and ideas at RitaMcGrath.com.
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    1 hr
  • Catalyzing Organizational Change with Rita McGrath and Michael Lurie

    Catalyzing Organizational Change with Rita McGrath and Michael Lurie
    May 5 2026
    In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, speaks with Michael Lurie, Chief Catalyst at Bayer and expert in leading large-scale transformations. 00:00 Introductions & Context 1:37 The Challenge — Walking Into Bayer 5:07 How the Rollout Began, Using Two Tracks 8:37 The Five Principles of Dynamic Shared Ownership 10:39 Principle 1: Focus on Mission and Outcomes 11:05 Principle 2: Collaborate on a Network of Self-Managing Teams 11:51 Principle 3: Create Value as Entrepreneurial Businesses 13:00 Principle 4: Explore, Execute, and Evolve in Rapid Cycles 13:38 Principle 5: Show Up in Creative Mindset 14:45 The VACC Leadership Model 15:52 Performance Results — The Evidence 19:37 Applying DSO to Manufacturing and The Precision Question 24:12 Overcoming Skepticism and Resistance 32:46 Reimagining Budgeting Towards Dynamic Resource Flow 41:44 Professional Homes — Reimagining Talent and Compensation 49:01 How Strategy Changes in the DSO Model 57:49 Lessons Learned and Surprises on the Journey 1:01:36 Closing Want to learn more about Rita’s ideas and hear more of her conversations with business leaders and innovators? Listen to more Thought Sparks Podcast episodes on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thought-sparks/id1546758719 https://open.spotify.com/show/0xmTsYXMgTeielwZ0dGTSU Watch Thought Sparks episodes on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcyXT8iJkTSciUMe0me3L7Q Follow Rita on LinkedIn, Instagram, X and Blue Sky. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritamcgrath/ https://x.com/rgmcgrath https://bsky.app/profile/rgmcgrath.bsky.social Connect with Rita on TikTok and Instagram. https://www.tiktok.com/@rgmcgrath https://www.instagram.com/ritamcgrath.hub/ Sign up for her Thought Sparks Newsletter on Substack. https://thoughtsparks.substack.com/ Learn more about Rita, her books and ideas at RitaMcGrath.com.
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    1 hr and 3 mins