• Does the term “permanence” help or hinder outcomes for children: Family Justice Council Debate (Part 1)
    May 3 2026

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    This weeks’ episode is something a bit different from our usual format. From the sunshine of Matt’s garden, Hannah and Matt listen back to the Family Justice Council Debate which Matt was a part of in December. This episode brings you this debate, which was hosted by Sir Andrew McFarlane, the then President of the Family Justice Council, and alongside Matt, Tom Wilson (1GC Chambers), Dame Annie Hudson, Professor Julie Selwyn CBE (University of Oxford), Cathy Ashley OBE (Family Rights Group), and Lorraine Cavanagh KC (St John’s Buildings) debate whether the term “permanence” helps or hinders outcomes for children.

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    1 hr and 13 mins
  • Putting enduring relationships at the heart of reform: Jarrod Wheatley
    Apr 26 2026

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    It’s the first episode of Series 6, and Hannah and Matt kick it off with some football chat before being joined by Jarrod Wheatley (CEO at Professional Individualised Care). This episode explores how Professional Individualised Care has built on work from Germany to approach alternatives to residential care in Australia, bringing experienced professionals from across the sector closer to the care of children, and how enduring, authentic relationships are central to this work.

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    1 hr and 1 min
  • ADCS Presidency - Passing the baton: Rachael Wardell and Ann Graham
    Mar 29 2026

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    It’s the final episode of series 5! Hannah and Matt are joined by Rachael Wardell and Ann Graham during the week that Rachael’s ADCS Presidency comes to an end and Ann’s begins. This episode explores what the ADCS has achieved over the past year, and what the focus will be for the year ahead, including discussion about child poverty, reforms and stop and search.

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    55 mins
  • What does the future of social work look like?: Lisa Harris, Farai Kanengoni, Mike Hayward, Kieron White and Neil Thompson
    Mar 23 2026

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    This episode was recorded with a live audience at the Social Work Show in Birmingham. Hannah and Matt are joined by Lisa Harris (Director at Birmingham Children’s Trust), Farai Kanengoni (Operational Lead, Coventry Children’s and Education Services), Mike Hayward (Principal Social Worker, Solihull Children’s Services), Kieron White (CEO, Leading AI), and Neil Thompson (social work academic, author and trainer). Together, with the support of our live audience, we discuss what the future of social work looks like. There is a particular focus on the advancement of AI, the benefits of this to social work, and the challenges and ethical implications that this this poses. Conversation also explores the political context that social work operates within, and how politics impacts social work practice.

    Please note: This episode was particularly challenging for Producer Arin, with some technical issues during the live recording, so there are some places within this episode where the conversation may sound slightly distorted.

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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • A citizen advocacy approach to supporting people with a learning disability: Clare Wightman and Mel Smith
    Mar 16 2026

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    The intro for this episode was recorded in week two of Coventry’s Ofsted inspection, and starts with Matt and Hannah’s sleep deprived ramblings. Luckily the interview was recorded pre-Ofsted, and Hannah and Matt are joined by Clare Wightman, CEO, and Mel Smith, Deputy CEO, at Grapevine Coventry and Warwickshire. The episode explores Grapevine’s work, the concept of citizen advocacy and the importance of relationships and connection in the context of working with people with learning disabilities. The episode end with some reflections in relation to the recent White Paper, ‘Every child achieving and thriving’, which outlines changes to the special educational needs and disabilities system.

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    55 mins
  • Technology, AI and Family Law: Family Justice Council Conference
    Mar 9 2026

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    Coventry got the Ofsted call so this episode is a bit different. Matt is with us for the intro, and then handed over the reigns to Hannah and Producer Arin who popped to the Family Justice Council Conference in Birmingham, where the theme was ‘The role of technology and AI in modern family law: opportunities and challenges’. Hannah spoke with Sir Andrew McFarlane (President of the Family Division and Chair of the Family Justice Council), Lisa Harker (Director at the Nuffield Family Justice Observatory), and Julie Young (Research Fellow at the University of East Anglia) about the conference, including why the topic was chosen, how we must hold onto our values as we move forwards with AI, and how technology can support in maintaining important relationship in open adoptions.

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    44 mins
  • From York With Love: The Care Leaders Summit
    Mar 2 2026

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    This episode was recorded at The Care Leaders Summit in York. The episode starts with Luke Rodgers, Founder and CEO at The Care Leaders, telling us about The Summit. Hannah and Matt are then joined by Karla George (Founder of The Baloo Project), Rosie Blackett (Director of Pro Alliance Sports), John Golding (Founder of PATH), Lee Weston (Founder of Believe and Achieve), and Tia James (Co-Founder of The Bigin Project) who are all fellows of The Care Leaders Fellowship. The episode explores how the fellowship supported Tia, Lee, John, Karla and Rosie on a personal level and to develop their ideas to support the care experienced community, to build their organisations. The episode goes on to consider what needs to change in the care system, before hearing some reflections from delegates from the Summit. The episode ends with an incredible performance by Ric Diaghe, performing a song written especially for The Care Leaders Summit.

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    1 hr
  • Making Child Protection Work: Harry Ferguson
    Feb 23 2026

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    This episode starts with Hannah and Matt talking about reforms to fostering (and caramel lattes). Matt and Hannah are then joined by Harry Ferguson to talk about his latest book, ‘Making Child Protection Work’. The episode explores how over time Harry’s research moved from asking social workers what they do, to immersing himself in social work practice, through ethnographic research, being with social workers in the places where child protection social work happens. Harry shares some of the key themes from his book, emphasising the importance of relational and intimate child protection practice.

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    1 hr and 22 mins