Brian Van Bower speaks with Andy Kaner, MLA, Master CBP, about the challenges of recruiting and training talent in the aquatic design field. They discuss the importance of technical skills like AutoCAD, the growing role of tools such as Revit, and the steep learning curve for designers entering the specialized world of pool engineering, hydraulics, and construction details. The conversation also explores strategies for attracting new talent and highlights how GENESIS® education and certification can help develop the next generation of aquatic design professionals.

Brian Van Bower is joined by Amanda Annis, president of Ohio Hot Tub and Sauna, to discuss the evolution of the hot tub and swim spa industry and its growing connection to wellness. They explore the shift toward year-round, low-maintenance spa solutions, the rise of features like swim spas and cold plunges, and the importance of safety and water care. The conversation also highlights the value of industry education, advocacy, and the role aquatics can play in improving health and expanding business opportunities.

What happens when you bring together some of the most experienced builders, designers, engineers, and innovators in the pool and spa industry?

Over the past 50 episodes of the Pool Professionals Podcast, host Brian Van Bower has done exactly that.

This milestone episode celebrates the ideas, insights, and experiences shared by the professionals who are pushing the industry forward—from technical innovation to leadership and craftsmanship.

Whether you're a pool builder, designer, or industry professional, these conversations are designed to help you grow, lead, and build better.

This episode is both a look back and a reminder that the best conversations are still ahead.