Anthony Pompliano and John Pompliano break down what’s really happening with bitcoin and the macro environment, covering inflation, AI-driven deflation, and Wall Street’s growing push into bitcoin through ETFs. They also discuss why bitcoin has held up during global conflict and why its scarcity could make it a long-term winner.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:44 - Bitcoin back above $75,000 & inflation outlook
• 10:42 - Stock market having one of its best years?
• 14:56 - How will assets perform rest of the year?
• 19:16 - AI impact on jobs
• 25:11 - There is a Wall Street war for bitcoin

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down what’s really going on in the market right now—from AI-driven disruption and rising inflation to why money is rotating into commodities and semiconductors. We also get into why bitcoin could be setting up for a bigger move as the macro environment continues to shift.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:50 - Iran war, markets & current outlook
• 3:22 - AI vs software (what’s the difference?)
• 5:43 - Who is actually using AI today?
• 9:10 - Who gets access to powerful AI models?
• 15:16 - Where are the investment opportunities?
• 19:38 - Large caps vs small caps
• 23:09 - Inflation vs deflation (what actually matters?)
• 29:27 - Bitcoin setup & macro conditions
• 37:37 - Why bitcoin wins in multiple scenarios
• 41:31 - Bitcoin volatility & cycle timing
• 44:34 - Dollar weakness & global shifts
• 46:31 - Future outlook for AI, bitcoin, & markets

Arthur Hayes is the CIO of Maelstrom and co-founder of BitMEX. In this conversation, we break down what’s really happening in the global economy—from the Iran conflict and oil prices to the push and pull between inflation and deflation. We also get into bitcoin’s role in all of this, how AI is reshaping the labor market, and where he sees the biggest opportunities in crypto, from decentralized exchanges to prediction markets and privacy coins.

Follow Arthur Hayes:

• IG - https://www.instagram.com/cryptohayes/
• LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/arthur-hayes-b493b42/
• Substack - https://cryptohayes.substack.com/
• Web: https://www.cryptohayes.com
• X - https://x.com/cryptohayes

Check out the Maelstrom Fund:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/maelstromfund
• Web - https://www.maelstrom.fund
• X - https://x.com/maelstromfund

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:49 - Iran war & oil market reaction
• 5:30 - Inflation vs deflation breakdown
• 7:42 - Why the Fed will always print money
• 9:08 - Gold vs bitcoin & global trade shift
• 14:20 - Arthur Hayes portfolio strategy
• 17:54 - Hyperliquid & the future of trading
• 24:20 - Insider trading should be legal?
• 27:59 - Why bitcoin doesn’t need institutions
• 32:09 - Zcash & privacy in crypto
• 35:23 - What Arthur is bearish on in crypto
• 40:30 - How big Hyperliquid can get
• 42:24 - Will prediction markets be successful?
• 46:45 - Final market outlook