Dylan Livingston on Longevity Policy, Right to Try, and Scaling the Longevity Dividend Jason Wright interviews Dylan Livingston, founder of the Alliance for Longevity Initiatives (A4LI), about advancing longevity through policy rather than products. Livingston traces his interest from discovering Aubrey de Grey as a teen to COVID-era experiences with his grandfather, which renewed his focus and led him to launch A4LI in 2022 as a coalition of longevity biotech companies. He describes passing a California resolution prioritizing longevity and healthy aging, framing the goal as achieving a “longevity dividend” worth trillions through reduced healthcare costs and increased productivity, and argues therapeutics can democratize longevity more than intensive lifestyle protocols. They discuss Right to Try, its limits under terminal-only access and liability concerns, and A4LI’s work expanding access in Montana and New Hampshire for Phase 1-safe therapies. Livingston highlights AI-driven acceleration in biotech, cellular reprogramming with Yamanaka factors, and previews A4LI’s Georgetown DC summit featuring major companies, researchers, policymakers, and a Capitol Hill briefing on US-China biotech competition. 00:00 Cold Open Banter 01:05 Why Longevity Policy 02:17 Dylan Origin Story 05:39 Launching The Alliance 08:24 Sponsor Message 09:18 California Policy Playbook 10:49 Longevity Dividend Explained 12:39 Therapeutics As Equalizer 13:44 Moral Case For Healthspan 17:48 Right To Try Primer 21:17 Fixing Right To Try 22:23 Biotech Valley Of Death 25:22 AI And Medical Gatekeeping 26:01 AI Health Coach Teaser 26:35 Plan Aware Health Coaching 27:31 Longevity Goals And Motivation 29:38 AI Accelerating Biotech 32:10 Cell Reprogramming Breakthroughs 34:32 Aging As Root Cause Policy 37:10 Wellness Mindset And Agency 40:15 Prevention Limits And Lifelong Care 44:33 DC Summit Agenda Preview 46:24 Hill Briefing And Biotech Race 49:20 Wrap Up And Medical Disclaimer

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30 Grams of Protein at Breakfast: The Simple Habit for Metabolism, Muscle, and Longevity In this Healthy CEO podcast episode, Jason argues that “winning the morning” includes strategically timing nutrition, especially getting at least 30 grams of protein at breakfast, to improve metabolism, body composition, energy, and aging. He challenges the assumption that skipping breakfast or only drinking coffee until noon is always healthier, noting research suggesting how you break a fast affects fat loss, muscle preservation, metabolic health, cognitive performance, and longevity. He explains protein’s benefits—higher thermic effect, better blood sugar stability, and greater satiety—and links muscle to healthy aging, citing age-related muscle loss and the role of mTOR and leucine (about 2.5–3 grams per meal). He gives breakfast protein examples and suggests essential amino acids as a practical option for intermittent fasters to support muscle without a full meal, recommending a one-week experiment. 00:00 Morning Protein Setup 01:02 30g Breakfast Challenge 01:44 Fasting and Metabolism 02:54 Why 30g Works 03:56 Muscle and mTOR 05:05 What 30g Looks Like 05:24 EAAs for Intermittent Fasters 06:57 Longevity and Weekly Experiment 08:10 Wrap Up and Disclaimer

Supplements Aren’t the Answer: Exercise, Blood Work, and the NAD Hype Jason Wright, co-founder and CEO of Authentic Health Partners, explains why he gets frustrated when people ask what supplements to take before addressing basics like exercise, sleep, hydration, diet, stress, and relationships. Using questions about NAD (often via NR/NMN precursors or injections) as the catalyst, he says there’s no panacea and nothing will outperform movement, sunshine, and avoiding over-nourishment; he notes calorie restriction is strongly correlated with longevity in studies but not proven causal. He describes Huberman’s NAD use as anecdotal and cautions against copying a “one person study” without considering the full lifestyle context and overall cellular health. Wright recommends getting blood work, consulting a physician, doing research (including randomized controlled trials), and keeping supplementation simple; personally he takes his company’s foundational stack plus creatine and glutathione, and warns GLP-1 users about under-nourishing and losing muscle. 00:00 Why Supplements Trigger Me 01:52 Fix The Basics First 04:09 Longevity Talk Calorie Restriction 05:55 NAD Explained And The Hype 08:49 Huberman N Of One Reality 12:32 How I Answer NAD Questions 16:02 What I Actually Take Daily 17:28 Cell Health Car Engine Analogy 22:21 No Panacea Holistic Health 23:47 GLP 1 Caution And Muscle Loss 25:47 Do Your Homework Closing 27:42 Medical Disclaimer