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The Datsusara Podcast

The Datsusara Podcast

By: Chris Odell
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DATSUSARA 脱サラ is a Japanese phrase that essentially means "To escape drudgery and find one's true path". This concept of living a life of self determination is the primary focus of the show. Episodes will feature guests that are examples of living the Datsusara way. The show is hosted by Chris Odell who is the founder of a the modern hemp gear companies, Datsusara (DSgear.com), and Odell Sports & Leisure (OdellSports.com).© 2025 Datsusara LLC Philosophy Social Sciences
Episodes
  • #41 Robb Wolf - Optimal Health Through Modern Science & Paleo Wisdom
    Feb 6 2026

    Chris has a fun and educational talk with ancestral health expert Robb Wolf. Robb is a former research biochemist, author of The Paleo Solution and Wired to Eat. In addition he co-founded the first and fourth CrossFit affiliates and co-founded the popular electrolyte drink LMNT. Topics discussed include: Supplementation, paleo diets, sleep nutrition, training and recovery tips for older athletes (with a focus on BJJ of course), and why the modern fear of the sun is irrational.


    SubStack: @robbwolf
    Youtube: RobbWolfVideos
    Facebook: robbwolfonline
    IG: @dasrobbwolf
    LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/

    Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory"

    Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

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    1 hr and 38 mins
  • #40 Roy Dean - Finding the Way Through BJJ
    Dec 2 2025

    Chris speaks with Jiu Jitsu black belt Roy Dean about everything from his early start earning black belts in the traditional martial arts of Judo, Aikikai Aikido, Seibukan Jujutsu and Enshin Itto Ryu Batto Jutsu, a Japanese sword system, all the way to achieving his 4th degree in BJJ under Roy Harris. They discuss martial arts in general, but mostly their shared passion for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, the best ways to learn, to teach, and Roy's unique approach to it all as colored by his history and his training under Roy Harris.

    Roy has a great website and produces a lot of excellent video content for the Jiu Jitsu community often in collaboration with his student and friend Rick Ellis who was on episode #39. Roy also has two books out about his martial arts journey, "The Martial Apprentice" and "Becoming the Black Belt" (Chris has read the latter and highly recommends).

    He is also producing a new coffee table style book called "Groundswell, the Rise of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in America" which is a beautiful piece of work that honors the history of the art, and you can see the fully funded Kickstarter page for here.


    Website: https://www.roydean.com
    Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@roydean
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/roydeantv
    IG: @roydean_

    Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory"

    Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

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    1 hr and 43 mins
  • #39 Rick Ellis - Older and Wiser Grappling
    Dec 2 2025

    Chris and jiu jitsu black belt Rick Ellis talk about his career path that led him to establish The Art of Skill website which produces engaging video content primarily for the BJJ community, his founding and hosting of the Old Grapplers Summit events for practitioners over 40, teaching jiu jitsu, the unique style of his teacher Roy Dean, and of great importance to Chris, who is 49 now, they also get into training methodologies for the aging grappler.


    Website: https://www.theartofskill.com
    Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/theartofskill
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theartofskill/
    IG: @RickEllisHQ

    Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory"

    Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

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    1 hr and 17 mins
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