Some of the most important things anyone ever told you about creativity, confidence and finding your way weren't said in a classroom or a therapy room. They were said in a kitchen, at a piano, in the middle of an ordinary afternoon by someone who had already figured it out the hard way.

Natalie is an actress with decades of BBC productions, theatre and film behind her - Calendar Girls, Pride and Prejudice, The Importance of Being Earnest, and this summer Shear Madness at the Sonning Theatre. She has spent nearly thirty years teaching the STAGE method to everyone from children to corporate boardrooms, helping people find their voice when it matters most. But she also happens to have known Daisy since the day she was born - and long before any of the credentials, she was the person who sat her down at a piano and told her to just play.

In this conversation, Natalie talks about what it really means to use anger as fuel rather than letting it consume you, and why the fire you felt at fifteen never actually goes out - it just needs you to look for it. They talk about creativity and why boredom is one of the most underrated tools you have, about letting go of what you cannot control, and about gratitude as something you practise rather than feel. Natalie shares what a hypnotherapist gave her in two words that changed everything, how watching David Bowie on Top of the Pops in 1973 cracked something open in her, and why nothing you have ever learned — even the things that didn't work out - is ever truly wasted.

This one is for anyone who has ever felt lost, poured everything into something that didn't go to plan, or needed a reminder that feeling behind is not the same as being behind.

Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼

In this episode we discuss:

• Using anger as fuel, not fire
• Why nothing you've ever learned is wasted
• The two words that changed everything
• Boredom as a creative tool
• Letting go of what you can't control
• Gratitude as a daily practice
• Natalie Ogle's STAGE method and public speaking
• Why the fire in your belly never really goes out

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What found us — Links & Mentions

Daisy:

• Give it a grow by Martha Swales
• Joshua Tree by Demi Lovato & Rose Gray
• Is This Thing On?

What found me this week: Ella's pick:

• The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost

Natalie:

• Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
• The Rocky Horror Show
• Suzi Quatro

Guest: Natalie — Shear Madness at the Sonning Theatre

The Daisy Chain is a weekly podcast where every week, someone who's already been where you are passes down four pearls of wisdom to those of us still finding our way.

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There's a particular weight to the moment you realise you've been distracting yourself from your own head — filling every gap with plans and people and things to do, just to avoid sitting in the quiet with yourself. If that sounds familiar, this conversation was made for you.

Jonnie Godfrey has known Daisy for twenty years. She's a psychotherapist, a coach, and a mother who raised two remarkable children largely on her own - but what makes her worth listening to isn't her credentials. It's that she grew up without her father, went to boarding school at nine, spent nine months travelling solo across Africa before anyone thought that was remarkable, and learned - slowly, imperfectly - that every truly awful thing in her life eventually gave her something back.

In this conversation, Jonnie and Daisy talk about what it really means to grow up without a parent, how anxious attachment shapes the way we love and the way we run, and the strange relief that comes from accepting that it's actually your job to get things wrong. They talk about boredom, stillness, the gift inside loss, and why the best piece of wisdom Jonnie ever received was the quietest: be still, and know there is peace within you.

Jonnie is the kind of person you want to have known for twenty years. The Daisy Chain is lucky to have her in the chain.

Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼

In this episode we discuss:

• Growing up without a parent
• Boarding school and feeling set apart
• Anxious attachment and how it shapes the way we love
• What distraction is really hiding
• The gift inside heartbreak and loss
• Parenting without a map
• Why it's our job to get it wrong
• Finding stillness
• Intergenerational wisdom

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What found us- Links & Mentions

Daisy:

• Tomorrow, Tomorrow and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin
• Sky above Clouds IV by Georgia O'Keefe

Jonnie:

•  Continuum Concept by Dr. Jean Leadoff
• The Family Bed by Tine Thevenin
• The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran

Guest: Jonnie Godfrey

The Daisy Chain is a weekly podcast where every week, someone who's already been where you are passes down four pearls of wisdom to those of us still finding our way.

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There's a version of confidence that looks like having it all together from the outside, and then there's what it actually feels like on the inside. If you've ever walked into a room certain that today is the day it all comes unstuck - this one is for you.

Doulla Croft has known Daisy since the day she was born. She built a career spanning decades at some of the world's biggest companies, managed high-performing teams, smashed targets - and spent most of it quietly convinced she was faking it. What makes her story worth hearing isn't the career. It's everything that had to happen before it, and everything she chose to walk away from after.

In this conversation, Doulla talks honestly about growing up feeling different, the cultural expectations placed on her as a young girl, and the moment during her first marriage with two children under five - that she turned her car around and signed up for A-levels at night school. She talks about imposter syndrome that never fully went away, the trap of tying your identity to your work, and why financial independence matters more than any job title. And she talks about what two rounds of cancer quietly clarified: what was actually worth fighting for, and what wasn't.

Doulla is one of those people who has genuinely earned her perspective - and she passes it down here without a single piece of advice that doesn't come from having really lived it.

Every Thursday at 3pm 🌼

In this episode we talk about:

• Imposter syndrome and how to build confidence from evidence rather than feeling
• Growing up under cultural expectations as a first generation British woman
• How to separate your identity from your career
• Finding your purpose after corporate life
• Financial independence for women and why it matters in every relationship
• Overcoming a difficult first marriage and starting over in your twenties
• Discovering you're dyslexic as an adult and what that changes
• Work life balance and the trap of tying your self worth to your job title
• Getting braver with age and giving less of a damn
• What a cancer diagnosis teaches you about what actually matters
• Intergenerational wisdom and passing down what you know

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• Instagram: @doullacroft
• Linkedin: Doulla Croft
• Side Hustle Productions

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Links & Mentions:

• Warning by Jenny Joseph
• Why Am I Afraid To Tell You Who I Am? by John Powell
• Sentimental Value
• I'm Still Standing by Elton John
• The Traitors

Guest: Doulla Croft

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