Journalist Andrew Goldman, host of the podcast Dead Certain, joins us for this multi-part series on the murder of Martha Moxley. We begin by examining the events of October 30, 1975, reconstructing the timeline of 15-year-old Martha’s final hours, and discussing the crime scene.

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Forensic psychologist Dr. Samantha Stein joins the show to discuss her book, Evil at Our Table: Inside the Minds of the Monsters Who Live Among Us. For nearly three decades, Dr. Stein interviewed violent sexual offenders under California’s Sexually Violent Predator law, helping determine who may safely return to society and who remains too dangerous to release. Dr. Stein discusses the challenges of evaluating dangerous offenders, the complexities of human behavior, common misconceptions about “evil,” and what it's like to sit face-to-face with some of society’s most disturbing individuals.

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In Part 2 of our analysis of the 2009 murder of 59-year-old Barbara Lea Tooley and the attempted murder of her 88-year-old mother, Helen Long, we examine victimology. We also provide our final assessment of the case, offender characteristics, and whether this crime was likely targeted or opportunistic. Part 2 of 2

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On October 1, 2009, 59-year-old Barbara Lea Tooley was murdered while visiting her 88-year-old mother, Helen Long, at the family home in Glendale, Oregon. Helen survived the attack despite suffering serious gunshot injuries. In this episode, we examine the timeline of events, witness statements, and the crime scene. Part 1 of 2.

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Tad DiBiase, a former federal prosecutor who specialized in “no-body” homicide cases joins the show. Tad walks through the reality behind these investigations and prosecutions, and why the idea that “no body means no case” simply isn’t true. We discuss what it takes to move forward without a body, from building circumstantial evidence to identifying behavioral patterns that demonstrate a homicide occurred.

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In part 4 of our series on the disappearance of Ashley Loring HeavyRunner, we bring our analysis to a close. Drawing from the timeline, Sam McDonald’s account, and Ashley’s victimology, we assess what the known facts—and the gaps—may suggest about what happened to Ashley in June 2017. Part 4 of 4.

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In Part 3 of our series on the disappearance of Ashley Loring HeavyRunner, we conclude our analysis of Sam McDonald’s account. From there, we shift our focus to Ashley’s victimology, looking at her lifestyle, relationships, and behavioral patterns to better understand her risk level and the circumstances surrounding her disappearance. Part 3 of 4.

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We continue working through the timeline of Ashley Loring HeavyRunner's disappearance in June 2017, with a focus on the account provided by the individual who claimed to be the last person to see her. Joined again by journalist and podcast host Jayson Blair, we examine that narrative in detail, assess its credibility, and consider how it fits within the broader timeline of Ashley’s disappearance.

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