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Rise: Hope and Healing Podcast

Rise: Hope and Healing Podcast

By: Dr. Kevin Skinner
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Summary

Rise is a podcast for anyone navigating the devastating impact of sexual betrayal. Season one, hosted by Dr. Kevin Skinner, Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Certified Sex Addiction Therapist, and Certified Partner Trauma Therapist, alongside MaryAnn Michaelis, Licensed Clinical Social Worker and Certified Sex Addiction Therapist and Certified Partner Trauma Therapist, brings together over 50 years of combined professional and personal experience to offer hope, direction, and healing.

Season two, hosted by MaryAnn Michaelis features weekly conversations with leading betrayal trauma experts exploring personal and clinical experience and observations, tools and resources for stabilizing, then thriving in post traumatic betrayal growth.

Each episode blends research, clinical expertise, and real-life experience to address the most pressing questions betrayed partners face: Am I going to be okay? Why does my mind keep racing? Can I ever trust again? How do I make sense of the shattering that just happened?

Listeners will gain:

  • Validation that what they’re experiencing is real and normal.

  • Practical tools like grounding techniques and emotional regulation exercises.

  • Research-backed insights from studies with thousands of betrayed partners.

  • Guidance for couples seeking to rebuild trust and safety after betrayal.

  • Hope-filled stories that remind you healing is possible—one step, one breath at a time.

Whether you’ve just discovered betrayal or are months or years into your healing journey, Rise offers a safe place to learn, reflect, and gather the tools needed to rebuild your life and reclaim your sense of self.

To learn more and access additional resources, visit humanintimacy.com/reclaim.

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Episodes
  • Reconstructing Faith After Betrayal: Finding Meaning in the Messy Middle with Dr. Karen Strange (Rise Season 2, Episode 18)
    May 12 2026

    In this episode of Rise: Hope and Healing After Sexual Betrayal, MaryAnn Michaelis LCSW, CSAT, CPTT, is joined by Dr. Karen Strange, LMFT, CSAT, CPTT, for a deeply compassionate conversation about what happens when betrayal trauma shakes not only our relationships—but also our faith, identity, and sense of meaning.

    Together, they explore the often unspoken spiritual impact of betrayal and the painful questions that arise in the “messy middle” of healing, including: Why did this happen? Can I still trust my higher power? What do I believe now?

    For many betrayed partners, recovery is not just about rebuilding trust with a spouse—it can also involve deconstructing and reconstructing long-held beliefs about God, safety, purpose, and self-worth. This episode holds space for that complexity with gentleness, honesty, and hope.

    In this episode, you’ll hear:
    • How betrayal trauma can impact faith and spiritual identity
    • Why anger at a higher power is a common and valid response
    • The experience of feeling “betrayed by God” or spiritually abandoned
    • How trauma can destabilize beliefs about meaning, safety, and self
    • The role of grief in spiritual deconstruction and reconstruction
    • Why the “messy middle” of not knowing is part of healing
    • How clients begin to rebuild their spiritual foundation after betrayal
    • The connection between truth, lies, and identity after trauma
    • What it means to find your “why” in the midst of suffering
    Tools and practices discussed:
    • Writing a letter to your higher power to express grief, anger, and questions
    • Allowing and honoring emotions instead of suppressing them
    • Identifying and challenging internalized “lies” after betrayal
    • Practicing self-compassion during identity disruption
    • Reframing painful experiences through meaning-making and reflection
    • Seeking safe relational support during deconstruction and healing
    Key themes:
    • Spiritual deconstruction and reconstruction
    • Emotional honesty in faith crises
    • Identity loss and rebuilding after betrayal trauma
    • Meaning-making in suffering
    • The importance of safe connection and support
    • Hope in the “messy middle” of healing

    MaryAnn and Dr. Strange emphasize that questioning, wrestling, and even feeling anger toward a higher power are not signs of failure—they are often part of a deeply human healing process. Over time, many individuals find that their faith is not necessarily destroyed, but transformed.

    Healing is not linear, and you are not alone in the questions you are carrying.

    Resources
    • "Man's Search For Meaning," Viktor Frankl
    • GABIS https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Grief-scale
    • Boundary Basics https://www.humanintimacy.com/course/boundary-basics
    • Explore guided support and recovery tools: humanintimacy.com
    • youtube.com/@human-intimacy

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    29 mins
  • You Are Not Your Partner's Mother, Sponsor, or Dumping Ground: Boundaries and Trusting Your Gut with Rhyll Croshaw (Rise Season 2, Episode 17)
    May 5 2026
    You Are Not Your Partner's Mother, Sponsor, or Dumping Ground: Boundaries and Trusting Your Gut with Rhyll Croshaw (Rise Season 2, Episode 17) In this powerful episode of Rise: Hope and Healing After Sexual Betrayal, MaryAnn Michaelis LCSW, CSAT, CPTT is joined by Rhyll Croshaw, a pioneer in betrayal trauma recovery, author of "What Can I Do About Me?",and co-founder of the SA Lifeline Foundation and SAL12step.org. Rhyll brings decades of lived experience, professional insight, and grounded wisdom to a conversation that speaks directly to one of the most confusing and painful parts of recovery after betrayal: How do I hold boundaries and learn to trust myself again when I’ve been conditioned to doubt my gut? In this episode, Rhyll shares her story of 53 years of marriage and insights learned from 32 years of betrayal trauma recovery work, including: what happens when betrayed partners find themselves over-functioning in relationships—becoming the emotional regulator, caretaker, or unintended “dumping ground” for their partner’s emotions, recovery work, or instability. At the heart of this conversation is a powerful truth: You are not your partner’s mother. You are not their sponsor. You are not their emotional dumping ground. And learning this boundary distinction is a critical part of healing. In This Episode, We Explore: Why betrayed partners often lose trust in their own intuition and gut instinctsHow external voices (partner, sponsor, family, culture) can override internal knowingThe emotional cost of becoming the “dumping ground” in a relationshipWhy boundaries are not rejection—they are role clarificationThe difference between supporting someone and over-functioning for themWhat it means to practice compassionate detachingHow to recognize when you are carrying emotions that are not yours to holdWhy trusting your gut is a recovery skill, not an automatic ability Key Takeaways: Your gut is not broken—it has been drowned out by survival and confusionBoundaries are about identity, roles, and emotional safetyYou cannot be someone’s partner, parent, and sponsor all at onceCompassion does not require emotional over-responsibilityHealing includes learning to say: “This is not mine to carry.” Powerful Themes in This Episode: Trusting Your Gut After betrayal, intuition often becomes clouded by fear, doubt, and conflicting messages. Relearning to listen to yourself is central to recovery. Boundaries as Role Clarity Boundaries are not punishment or withdrawal—they define what is and is not yours to hold in a relationship. Compassionate Detaching Detaching does not mean abandoning love. It means staying connected to yourself while releasing responsibility for what belongs to another adult. Emotional Over-Responsibility Many betrayed partners unconsciously become emotional caretakers for their spouse’s recovery or regulation—at great personal cost. Memorable Quotes & Concepts: “You are not your partner’s sponsor, mother, or dumping ground.”“Boundaries aren’t rejection—they’re role correction.”“Your gut still speaks, but too many voices have been louder than it.”“Detaching with compassion means I care—but I don’t carry what isn’t mine.” Hope & Healing Reminder: Recovery is not just about understanding betrayal—it is about reclaiming yourself. Learning to trust your gut, hold boundaries, and step out of over-responsibility is not selfish. It is foundational to healing, clarity, and emotional safety. Resources & References: What Can I Do About Me? by Rhyll CroshawDopamine Nation by Anna LembkeSA Lifeline Foundation https://salifeline.orgSAL 12 Step https://sal12step.orgThe Recovery Puzzle Recovery Circles ModelRise online companion course Boundary Basics online courseHuman Intimacy online courses - communication, relationships, The Intimacy Repair MethodGABIS - the Grief After Betrayal Impact Scale Survey - Contribute to our Resarch! Share This Episode If this episode resonates with you, please share it with someone who may be: second-guessing their intuitioncarrying emotional responsibility that isn’t theirslearning to set or hold boundaries after betrayal
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    40 mins
  • Holding Boundaries Through Discomfort: Emotions, Pushback and Staying Grounded with Dr. Skinner (Rise Season 2, Episode 16)
    Apr 28 2026
    Holding Boundaries In Discomfort: Emotions, Pushback and Staying Grounded with Dr. Skinner (Rise Season 2, Episode 16)

    In this episode of Rise: Hope & Healing After Sexual Betrayal, MaryAnn Michaelis, LCSW, CSAT, CPTT is joined again by Dr. Kevin Skinner LMFT, CSAT, CPTT to continue the powerful conversation on boundaries—this time focusing on what happens after you set one.

    Because the truth is… setting a boundary is only the beginning.

    What happens when your partner pushes back? When fear floods in? When you’re not even sure you can follow through?

    This episode steps into the emotional reality of holding boundaries—the discomfort, the fear, and the growth required to stay grounded in your values.

    What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
    • Why boundaries must be rooted in your personal values (your “why”)
    • The role of homeostasis—and why change in relationships feels so hard
    • The difference between rigid vs. flexible boundaries
    • Why you are allowed to change your mind as you learn and grow
    • What it really means to follow through on a boundary
    • How to handle pushback, resistance, or defensiveness
    • The impact of shame filters in the betraying partner
    • Why boundaries often trigger fear of loss and abandonment
    • The importance of differentiation—holding onto yourself in the relationship
    • How to stay grounded when you feel triggered, anxious, or dysregulated
    Key Takeaways:
    • Boundaries are not about control—they are about self-alignment and safety
    • If a boundary isn’t connected to your values, it will be difficult to maintain
    • You don’t have to get it perfect—you need to stay aware and adaptable
    • Discomfort is not a sign you’re doing it wrong—it’s often a sign of growth
    • You can be both shaky and strong at the same time
    Emotional Reality Check:

    Holding boundaries may bring up:

    • Fear (“Will this end my relationship?”)
    • Anxiety (“What if I can’t follow through?”)
    • Confusion (“Am I doing this right?”)
    • Grief (loss of identity, loss of what was)

    This is normal.

    You are learning a new way of being—like writing with your non-dominant hand.

    🛠️ Practical Tools Shared:
    • Define your boundary by asking: “What is my why?”
    • Communicate clearly: “If X happens, I will respond by doing Y.”
    • Prepare for resistance—it doesn’t mean the boundary is wrong
    • Regulate yourself before having the conversation
    • Build support systems (friends, therapists, safe people)
    • Give yourself permission to adjust as you learn
    Final Thought:

    Boundaries are only as strong as the work you’ve done within yourself.

    And even when it feels uncomfortable, uncertain, or scary— you are allowed to take up space, have needs, and honor them.

    🔗 Resources Mentioned:
    • Dr. Kevin Skinner’s work on rebuilding after betrayal
    • Rebuild Your Relationship After Sexual Betrayal
    • Boundary Course at Human Intimacy: https://www.humanintimacy.com/link/9yNi7c?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.humanintimacy.com%2Fcourse%3Fcourseid%3Dboundary-basics
    • www.youtube.com/human-intimacy
    • Grief After Betrayal Impact Scale Survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Grief-scale
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    If this episode resonated with you, please help us reach others who may need support by liking and sharing it. You never know who needs to hear that they’re not alone.

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    30 mins
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