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Radical Sacred

Radical Sacred

By: Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke
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 Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.

For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore.

Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core of all creation.

Radical Sacred is an invitation to join them in curiosity as they explore questions such as:
  • What is an experience that led you to a kinder, more inclusive spirituality?
  • Who was the first person you met that broadened your ideas about the Divine?
  • Where do you experience the Holy?
  • If liberation of self leads us on a pathway to liberation for all, what has that looked like in your own spirituality?
  • How do you find joy and pleasure in these wild times?
  • Has there been an anchor for you as your spirituality has shifted?
  • How can the stories we tell ourselves harm or heal ourselves, and creation?
Not experts, Jenny and Phil strive to live the questions while exploring the mystery of all that is unsolved in our hearts and souls.

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Episodes
  • Everything is a Story with Kaitlin Curtice

    Everything is a Story with Kaitlin Curtice
    Apr 29 2026
    We were so honored to speak with the author of Everything is a Story Kaitlin Curtice! Kaitlin is a an award-winning author, poet-storyteller, public speaker, and enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi nation. Today she walks us through the importance of the stories we tell ourselves, rewriting the stories we’ve been told that we’ve outgrown, and telling new stories about community and connection to ourselves, to the land, and to one another. Join us as we dive deep this week into stories, imagination, and hope amidst collapse.


    Show Notes:
    • Substack - Liminality Journal
    • Everything is a Story
    • Kaitlin’s Instagram
    • Don’t Bother the Earth Spirit by: Joy Harjo

    Takeaways
    • Stories are time capsules that evolve with us, reflecting our growth.
    • Grief is a sacred space that, when embraced, can lead to profound healing.
    • Imagination is a vital tool for envisioning a better world and living beyond our limitations.
    • Connecting with ancestors and the earth provides guidance and strength.
    • Healing stories require patience, presence, and a willingness to face discomfort.
    Chapters
    00:00 The Power of Storytelling
    04:02 Childhood Narratives and Personal Growth
    12:20 Healing Through Reflection and Connection
    17:46 Catalysts for Change and Presence
    23:51 Collective Stories and Community Healing
    27:55 Healing Through Grief and Community
    31:18 The Role of Imagination in Writing
    36:07 Wisdom of Midlife Transitions
    41:47 Navigating Edges: Pleasure, Risk, and Pain
    47:35 Fear and Failure as Invitations
    50:27 Claiming Words as Medicine
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    57 mins
  • Dr. Andrea Adams on Hopecology

    Dr. Andrea Adams on Hopecology
    Apr 22 2026
    Conservation ecologist and writer Dr. Andrea Adams joins us on the pod today! We chat about nature, spirituality, finding new pathways as life shifts in unexpected ways, and hope that's rooted in action during these uncertain times. Andrea brings depth, honesty, and reminders of nature's reciprocity and endless invitations in our conversation and through her lovely Substack Hopecology.

    Show notes:
    • Dr. Andrea Adams Website
    • Hopecology
    • Christ the Yogi: A Hindu Reflection on the Gospel of John
    • How Dark the Beginning by Maggie Smith
    Key Topics
    • The role of hope in ecological and personal resilience
    • The intersection of science, spirituality, and indigenous knowledge
    • Transformative experiences and personal growth after trauma
    • The importance of doubt and humility in scientific practice
    • Practical actions for hope and care in ecology
    Chapters
    00:00 The Dark and the Light: A Poetic Introduction
    02:47 Introducing Dr. Andrea Adams: A Journey of Hope and Ecology
    06:43 The Birth of Hopecology: From Trauma to Transformation
    10:25 Spirituality and Personal Evolution: A Complex Relationship
    18:37 Finding Hope Amidst Environmental Collapse
    24:19 Transformation Through Adversity: Embracing the Roar
    34:54 Embracing Your Strange Path
    36:00 Navigating the Edges of Comfort
    38:39 The Nature of Science and Intellectual Humility
    46:28 Reciprocity Between Science and Spirituality
    54:10 Hope as Action in Ecology
    01:01:32 Learning from Nature: Biomimicry and Reciprocity
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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Cheers to 100 Episodes of Staying Rooted!

    Cheers to 100 Episodes of Staying Rooted!
    Apr 15 2026
    Today is Radical Sacred’s 100th Episode! Hard to believe we’ve spent 100 hours conversing with artists, theologians, poets, authors, naturalists and more over the past 2.5 years. Each conversation has been a joy and has served as an invitation to a deeper knowing of self and the world around us. Friend of the pod Melissa Fritchle who is a Holistic Psychotherapist and Spiritual Counselor, a Wild guide with Center for Wild Spirituality and co-founder of Intimate with the Moon and Soil and the author of The Conscious Sexual Self Workbook and the substack Soul Entwined with Earth, interviews us about all the lovely inner workings of Radical Sacred. We loved talking with her about intimacy, our hopes, our roots, and more in this special episode. Thank you for listening to us, for journeying with us, and for your support! There is no Radical Sacred without our community of listeners and friends and we are grateful for you!


    Show Notes
    • Radical Sacred Substack
    • Radical Sacred Website
    • Radical Sacred on Youtube
    • Melissa Fritchle’s Website
    • Melissa’s Substack - Soul Entwined with Earth
    • Intimate with the Moon and Soil - Melissa’s new venture!
    • On Friendship by Khalil Gibran
    Key Topics
    • The origin of the podcast and its focus on deep, rooted conversations
    • The importance of vulnerability and authenticity in spiritual spaces
    • The role of nature and interconnectedness in personal growth



    Chapters
    00:00 The Essence of Friendship
    02:31 Celebrating 100 Episodes
    05:36 The Journey of Radical Sacred
    13:03 The Dynamics of Friendship
    17:02 Vulnerability in Conversations
    30:47 Transformative Beliefs and Worldviews
    35:12 The Journey of Transformation
    35:59 Attention and Intention in Pilgrimage
    37:34 Memorable Conversations and Surprising Insights
    39:07 The Impact of Connections and Community
    40:59 Navigating Change and Personal Growth
    42:44 The Role of Community in Times of Crisis
    44:18 Interconnectedness and Collective Hope
    47:34 Radical Sacred: Embracing Change
    53:19 Looking Ahead: Future Conversations and Themes
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    1 hr and 4 mins
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