Episodes

  • ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ “Every law firm needs a Mary.”
    May 28 2026

    Tim Kenney sat down with Luke Abagi, Head of Product at Mary Technology, for a deep conversation on litigation AI, โ€œ๐—ณ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐˜ ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ผ๐˜€โ€ and why trust is becoming one of the most important layers in legal AI.


    The name โ€œMaryโ€ actually comes from one of the founderโ€™s relatives:

    a ruthlessly efficient barrister known for cutting through complexity.

    And that became the mission.


    Build technology that helps legal teams navigate overwhelming volumes of information faster โ€” without removing legal judgment.


    ๐Ÿ’ก ๐—ž๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€:

    โ†ณ Litigation teams spend enormous time navigating โ€œfact chaosโ€ across massive document sets

    โ†ณ AI in litigation isnโ€™t just about efficiency โ€” itโ€™s about surfacing critical insights faster

    โ†ณ Verification, citations, and review layers are becoming essential in legal AI workflows

    โ†ณ The biggest risk in AI may be โ€œcognitive surrenderโ€ โ€” blindly trusting confident outputs

    โ†ณ The future of legal AI may depend less on automationโ€ฆ and more on trust


    One insight that stood out:

    โ€œ๐—ข๐˜‚๐—ฟ ๐—บ๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐—บ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ฑ๐—ผ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜„ ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ท๐˜‚๐—ฑ๐—ด๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜.โ€



    #PeopleInLegal #LegalTech #AIinLaw #Litigation #LegalInnovation #FutureOfLaw #LegalAI #MaryTechnology #eDiscovery

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    21 mins
  • Legal Innovation & Tech Fest - Alison Laird
    May 27 2026

    ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ โ€œThe future of law is a profession-wide problem.โ€

    At LEGAL INNOVATION & TECH FEST, Roni Millard, Founder and Health & Wellness Consultant at The Wellbeing Edge, sat down with Alison Laird, Director of the Centre for Legal Innovation, to unpack one of the biggest questions facing the legal industry:

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ ๐—”๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น๐˜† ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜„๐˜†๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ณ๐˜‚๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐—น ๐˜„๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ธ?

    Alison shared insights from CLIโ€™s upcoming ๐—™๐˜‚๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—Ÿ๐—ฎ๐˜„ ๐—ฅ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜ โ€” an independent industry-wide initiative designed to better understand how legal teams, law firms, students, and the broader profession are navigating rapid change.

    One challenge stood out clearly:

    The expectations on modern lawyers are evolving faster than the profession itself.

    ๐Ÿ’ก ๐—ž๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€:

    โ†ณ In-house legal teams are continuing to bring more work internally

    โ†ณ Law firms are under pressure to rethink how they deliver value

    โ†ณ Employers increasingly want โ€œtech-enabledโ€ lawyers from day one

    โ†ณ The gap between education and industry expectations is becoming more visible

    โ†ณ Solving the future skills challenge requires collaboration across the entire profession

    CLI is currently inviting participation in its independent ๐—™๐˜‚๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—Ÿ๐—ฎ๐˜„ ๐—ฅ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜ ๐˜€๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐˜†, bringing together perspectives from across the profession.

    The more perspectives involved, the more valuable the insights become.

    ๐Ÿ“Œ Learn more about the Future of Law Report and participate here:
    https://surveys.matternz.com/s3/col0004-cli-innovationsurvey-2026

    To explore more from the Centre for Legal Innovation:
    https://cli.collaw.com/

    #PeopleInLegal #LegalInnovation #FutureOfLaw #LegalTech #LawFirms #InHouseCounsel #LegalEducation #AIinLaw #CentreForLegalInnovation

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    5 mins
  • Legal Innovation & Tech Fest - Adam Norman Jenkins
    May 26 2026

    ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ โ€œ๐— ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜‚๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜„ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—ณ๐—ฎ๐—บ๐—ถ๐—น๐˜† ๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜„ ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜ ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฏ๐—น๐—ฒ.

    At LEGAL INNOVATION & TECH FEST, Roni Millard, Founder and Health & Wellness Consultant at The Wellbeing Edge sat down with Adam Norman Jenkins, co-founder of ISaidUSaid.com, fresh off winning the ๐’๐ญ๐š๐ซ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ฉ ๐‚๐ฅ๐š๐ฌ๐ก ๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ซ๐, to discuss how AI and sentiment analytics are being used to tackle one of the most emotionally confronting areas of law.And this wasnโ€™t another โ€œAI will write your briefโ€ conversation.

    This was about:

    โ†’ ๐—ฑ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฐ ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ

    โ†’ ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐˜‚๐—บ๐—ฎ

    โ†’ ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—น๐—ผ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ

    โ†’ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐˜†๐˜€๐˜๐—ฒ๐—บ

    ๐Ÿ’ก ๐—ž๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€:

    โ†ณ Family lawyers are facing enormous emotional and psychological strain

    โ†ณ Reviewing years of messages, emails, videos, and recordings manually is mathematically impossible

    โ†ณ AI sentiment analytics can identify patterns of financial abuse, coercion, escalation, and conflict across huge data sets

    โ†ณ Faster identification of high-risk matters could improve intervention outcomes and client safety

    โ†ณ Data-driven evidence may help reduce emotional escalation and improve clarity in family law matters


    One insight that stood out:

    โ€œData has no character.โ€

    Adam spoke candidly about the emotional weight of building technology in this space, the impact on family lawyers, and the bigger vision behind ISaidUSaid:Not just improving efficiency.But helping fix a system under enormous pressure.


    #PeopleInLegal #LegalTech #AIinLaw #FamilyLaw #DomesticViolence #LegalInnovation #LegalAI #FutureOfLaw #SentimentAnalytics

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    14 mins
  • RelFest26 Sydney - Chris Brown
    May 25 2026

    ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ โ€œThe legal industry isnโ€™t sleepy anymore.โ€

    At RelFest 26 Sydney by Relativity, Jonathan Seifman sat down with Chris Brown, Chief Product Officer at Relativity, to explore how legal tech is evolving through AI, collaboration, and continuous innovation.

    Coming from outside the legal industry originally as a computer engineer, Chris shared why legal tech became one of the most exciting industries heโ€™d ever worked in.

    Legal is no longer just adopting technology.

    Itโ€™s actively shaping it.


    ๐Ÿ’ก ๐—ž๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€:

    โ†ณ Legal data intelligence is becoming central to investigations, litigation, and regulatory workflows
    โ†ณ AI adoption in eDiscovery and legal workflows started much earlier than many people realise
    โ†ณ The best product innovation happens through deep customer feedback loops
    โ†ณ Australian legal professionals are viewed globally as highly practical and innovation-driven
    โ†ณ Modern legal AI requires collaboration between lawyers, engineers, and product teams


    One insight that stood out:

    โ€œYou want to engineer feedback loops into your development process.โ€

    As Chris put it:

    โ€œItโ€™s not too pretentious here. People just get to work.โ€


    #PeopleInLegal #RelFest26 #Relativity #LegalTech #AIinLaw #LegalInnovation #eDiscovery #FutureOfLaw #LegalIndustry


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    8 mins
  • Legal engineers will become the most important role in law firms
    May 21 2026

    Tim Kenney had the great conversation with Ted Theodoropoulos, CEO of Infodash, legal tech thought leader, and host of the ๐—Ÿ๐—ฒ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—œ๐—ป๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ฆ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐˜๐—น๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ต๐˜ ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐—ฑ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜, for a deep conversation on AI, enterprise search, knowledge management, and the future of legal innovation.

    And one message came through clearly: The firms that win in the AI era wonโ€™t just buy better tools. Theyโ€™ll build better infrastructure, better integrations, and better legal engineering capability.


    ๐Ÿ’ก ๐—ž๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€:

    โ†ณ Legal engineers are becoming critical to law firm transformation
    โ†ณ AI makes knowledge management and data hygiene more important than ever
    โ†ณ โ€œGarbage in, garbage outโ€ still applies in legal AI
    โ†ณ Off-the-shelf AI tools alone wonโ€™t create long-term differentiation
    โ†ณ Law firms need technology foundations that can scale securely and intelligently


    One insight that stood out:

    โ€œTechnology is now entering the chat.โ€


    #PeopleInLegal #LegalTech #AIinLaw #LegalEngineering #KnowledgeManagement #EnterpriseSearch #FutureOfLaw #InfoDash #LegalInnovation

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    46 mins
  • Legal Innovation & Tech Fest - David Lisitsa
    May 20 2026

    ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ ๐— ๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜„ ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐˜€ ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐˜ ๐˜€๐—ผ๐—น๐—ฑ ๐—ฎ ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ. ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—น๐—ฑ ๐—ฏ๐˜‚๐˜† ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฒ.


    At LEGAL INNOVATION & TECH FEST, our host Roni Millard, Founder and Health & Wellness Consultant at The Wellbeing Edge sat down with David Lisitsa, Director of NewLaw.com โ€” the advisory many firms turn to when they need someone on their side of the table.


    In an age of noise:

    every vendor pitching,

    every AI tool a saviour,

    every consultant with a deckโ€ฆ Newlaw cuts through it.


    Firms come to Newlaw with a problem โ€” or hand them the keys and ask Newlaw to find the problems and solve them.


    Either way, the brief is the same:

    Help the firm stay competitive with the modern client.


    Newlaw is effectively a fully outsourced legal operations, project management and design function.


    The scope runs end-to-end:

    โ–ช๏ธ Stack selection โ€” choosing the platforms that will actually support the firm, not the loudest vendor in the room

    โ–ช๏ธ Implementation & training โ€” getting tools into the hands of fee-earners and making them stick

    โ–ช๏ธ Marketing โ€” positioning, digital presence, growth

    โ–ช๏ธ Intake & client onboarding โ€” frictionless, compliant, fast

    โ–ช๏ธ AML & risk โ€” built into the workflow, not bolted on

    โ–ช๏ธ Precedent automation โ€” turning expert lawyersโ€™ work into leverage

    โ–ช๏ธ Reporting & data โ€” so firm leaders actually know whatโ€™s happening

    โ–ช๏ธ Workflow design โ€” the operational layer that makes everything else work

    โ–ช๏ธ AI implementation โ€” deep expertise, real deployments


    Platform-agnostic by design โ€” firms come to Newlaw regardless of which stack theyโ€™re on or moving to:

    ๐Ÿ”น Practice management: Clio, Actionstep, Smokeball - Legal Software, LEAP Legal Software, Yao, LOGICFIRM SL, Thomson Reuters

    ๐Ÿ”น Document management: NetDocuments, iManage, Bundledocs

    ๐Ÿ”น CRM & business platforms: HubSpot, Zoho, Hivelight

    ๐Ÿ”น AI & emerging tools: Parachute, Harvey, Legora and others โ€” including local, on-premise deployments for firms where client confidentiality is non-negotiable


    David's view:

    โ€œ๐˜›๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜จ๐˜บ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ด ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ญ๐˜ข๐˜ธ ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜บ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ถ๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ด ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ด ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜จ๐˜ถ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ฆ.โ€


    Firms shouldnโ€™t be sold a stack.

    They should buy an outcome โ€” then bring in the experts to land it.


    ๐Ÿ’ฅ ๐—ช๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜โ€™๐˜€ ๐—ฐ๐˜‚๐˜๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ด๐—ต ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ป๐—ผ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฒ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜†๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—บ ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ต๐˜ ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜„?



    #PeopleInLegal #LegalTech #AIinLaw #LegalOperations #WorkflowAutomation #LawFirms #FutureOfLaw #LegalInnovation #ChangeManagement

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    7 mins
  • Legal Innovation & Tech Fest - Kaleb Holden
    May 19 2026

    ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ ๐—”๐—œ ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐˜€ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜. ๐—ก๐—ผ๐˜ ๐—ท๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜.


    At LEGAL INNOVATION & TECH FEST, Roni Millard, Founder and Health & Wellness Consultant at The Wellbeing Edge sat down with Kaleb Holden, Director of APAC at NetDocuments, to unpack whatโ€™s really keeping legal professionals up at night in the age of AI.


    And surprisingly?

    Itโ€™s not just the technology itself.

    Itโ€™s:

    โ†’ information overload

    โ†’ governance

    โ†’ security

    โ†’ and figuring out which AI direction actually matters


    ๐Ÿ’ก ๐—ž๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€:

    โ†ณ Law firms are overwhelmed by the sheer number of AI options entering the market
    โ†ณ Good AI requires structure, governance, and context โ€” not just access to data
    โ†ณ Automating document workflows remains a huge opportunity for firms
    โ†ณ Security and data ownership are becoming even more critical in legal AI adoption
    โ†ณ The firms embracing AI strategically will gain long-term operational advantages


    One insight that stood out:

    โ€œBring AI to your content โ€” not content to your AI.โ€


    #PeopleInLegal #LegalTech #AIinLaw #NetDocuments #LegalInnovation #FutureOfLaw #DocumentManagement #LawFirms #LegalAI



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    3 mins
  • RelFest26 Georgia Foster
    May 18 2026

    ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ AI isnโ€™t slowing down. Neither is legal tech.

    At ๐—ฅ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—™๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ฆ๐˜†๐—ฑ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜† by Relativity, Jonathan Seifman sat down with Georgia Foster, Managing Director and VP Sales, to discuss how AI is reshaping legal workflows, client expectations, and the future of the industry.


    ๐Ÿ’ก ๐—ž๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€:

    โ†ณ Legal teams are under increasing pressure to move faster and do more with less

    โ†ณ AI adoption is no longer a future discussion โ€” itโ€™s happening now

    โ†ณ Trust, accuracy, and security remain critical in legal AI workflows

    โ†ณ The firms embracing innovation strategically will create long-term advantage

    โ†ณ Technology alone isnโ€™t enough โ€” change management and people matter just as much


    ๐Ÿ’ก ๐—ž๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€:

    โ†ณ Legal teams are under increasing pressure to move faster and do more with less
    โ†ณ AI adoption is no longer a future discussion โ€” itโ€™s happening now
    โ†ณ Trust, accuracy, and security remain critical in legal AI workflows
    โ†ณ The firms embracing innovation strategically will create long-term advantage
    โ†ณ Technology alone isnโ€™t enough โ€” change management and people matter just as much


    #PeopleInLegal #RelFest26 #Relativity #LegalTech #AIinLaw #LegalInnovation #FutureOfLaw #eDiscovery #LegalIndustry

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    9 mins