In this episode of M and M Extra, Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher dive into the world of Tucker Carlson, discussing his recent interview with the New York Times and the controversy surrounding his views on Israel. The conversation touches on the importance of intellectual honesty and the need to reserve space for those who may not be supportive of Israel but don't harbor anti-Semitic views.

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What does it say about a country when people openly celebrate someone else’s suffering? Mike digs into the backlash surrounding Rudy Giuliani’s health scare and the disturbing reactions online, using it to question how far basic empathy has eroded in today’s culture. As social media fuels outrage and dehumanization, he pushes back on the instinct to mock or dismiss those we disagree with—warning that it only deepens the divide. From political tribalism to the growing influence of alternative voices on younger audiences, the conversation highlights a nation drifting further apart. The bigger question lingers: is there still a way back to common ground, or are we watching civility slip away for good?

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The New York Times interviewed Tucker Carlson over the weekend. Lots of people are talking about it, including Mike and Mark.

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