Dr. Jonathan Ashong-Lamptey, founder of The Element of Inclusion, joins Dr. Nadia and Rob to talk about why AI is bringing inclusion back, how organizations change when our team members are bots, and how AI can create opportunities to measure inclusion.

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Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven people and culture strategy.

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Rare disease supply chain executive Michele Liuzzi and operating model design expert Olga Potaptseva join Nadia and Rob to discuss their collaboration to develop The Harmonious Operating Model, why breaking down silos is "addictive" for leaders and employees, and why organizations have to anchor their decisions in "why?".

Learn more about Sataaya Consulting at: https://www.sataaya.com

Read the whitepaper at: https://www.eucustomerconsultancy.com/operationalblueprint-2

Find season 6 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing

Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven people and culture strategy.

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Season 6 kicks off with the stories Nadia and Rob have been bursting to talk about during their hiatus. Allbirds goes from wooly shoes to AI, Deloitte creates a caste system and cuts benefits, DEI survives a major court case, and a federal worker pulls a fast one. Later, Rob rants about CEO pay and Nadia raves about Lego.

Learn more about the topics discussed in the episode today:

• https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/15/allbirds-bird-stock-shoes-ai.html

• https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/policy/articles/deloitte-just-axed-50k-ivf-171500592.html?

• https://www.hrdive.com/news/dei-training-didnt-lead-to-hostile-work-environment-10th-circuit/820017/

• https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/apr/2/nehemie-almonor-federal-worker-va-admits-using-telework-get-3/

Find season 6 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1i5q2ALf97g1pNz1TdSC_OBOlnPcFhsXs?usp=drive_link

Connect with us:

Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness

Visit https://luma.com/trustbydesign for workshops and webinars to use data and AI to build organizational trust

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