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Ill Conceived

Ill Conceived

By: Josh Boerman & June Sternbach
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A podcast about natalism. Hosted by Josh Boerman (The Worst of All Possible Worlds, Traditional Scrench) and June Sternbach (Kill The Computer, The Onion).

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Episodes
  • Viktor Orbán: The B-Side (PREVIEW)

    Viktor Orbán: The B-Side (PREVIEW)
    Jun 27 2026

    THIS IS A PREVIEW OF A BONUS B-SIDE EPISODE. For access to the full length version of this and every other biweekly bonus B-side, go to Patreon.com/illconceived

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    This one's mostly about Rod Dreher. We also read your letters about:

    • Performing sex live on stage (this is a reminder to get your tickets to Thursday's Chicago live show!)
    • Why grandparents can't retire
    • The mechanics of Orbán's Home Building Allowance for Families policy and its longer-term impacts on the Hungarian housing market
    • The overlap between Fidesz and the Heritage Foundation, as well as their connecting link: the Danube Institute
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    25 mins
  • Viktor Orbán

    Viktor Orbán
    Jun 21 2026
    ***TICKETS TO OUR JULY 2 SHOW IN CHICAGO ARE ON SALE! GET YOUR TICKETS NOW BY CLICKING HERE!!!!*** While natalism as a political project has its proponents, few heads of state have been willing to attempt to use the full force of the state to raise birth rates. However, one leader does stand out: Hungary's recently-ousted prime minister, Viktor Orbán. This week, June and Josh take a look at Orban's 16-year term as PM, the effects of his policies, and the ways that right-wing authoritarianism in Europe both mirrors and partners with similar movements in the United States. ***WANT MORE ILL CONCEIVED? Every other week, we release B-side supplements to the main episodes where we read your e-mail responses and discuss things further. Come check us out at Patreon.com/illconceived!*** ***WE WANT YOUR THOUGHTS FOR THE WORLD FAMOUS MAILBAG! Send an email with feedback about this week's episode to illconceivedpod@gmail.com*** EPISODE ART: Viktor Orbán, the former prime minister of Hungary. AUDIO CLIPS: 1:08:34 – Marco Rubio speaking in Budapest in February 2026, declaring a "golden era" in relations between Hungary and the United States1:14:09 – JD Vance calling Donald Trump at an April 2026 Viktor Orban election rally in Budapest SOURCES: How Viktor Orban hollowed out Hungary’s democracyHow Viktor Orbán’s Hungary Eroded the Rule of Law and Free MarketsHungary’s opposition struggles to beat Viktor Orban’s stealth autocracyHome Building Allowance for FamiliesViktor Orban’s pro-natalist policies are not workingIn a state of necessity. How has Orban changed HungaryHungary passes constitutional amendment to ban LGBTQ+ public eventsHungary Ends Legal Recognition for Transgender and Intersex PeopleHungary’s ongoing demographic decline: an increase in birth rates is the only hopeAuthoritarian Populism in Disguise: Orbán’s Anti-Worker ‘Pro-Worker’ RegimeHungary races to build border fence as migrants keep comingOrbán rejects the European Union’s migration agreement and defends keeping asylum seekers out of EU territoryConference of U.S. conservatives opens in Orban’s HungaryHungary offered €30,000 to couples having 3 kids—but its birth rate has still fallen to a record monthly lowVance, after rallying in Hungary for Orban, says he wasn’t surprised by the autocrat’s defeatHungary: Prime Minister Viktor Orbán announced a seven-point family protection action planHungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC Here's why American conservatives are heading to Hungary for a big conferenceAt CPAC, Hungary’s Orban decries LGBTQ+ rights, migration What one country's experiment says about attempts to boost birth rates Farewell To Hungary, And To Europe FOLLOW THE SHOW: Website: illconceivedpodcast.comBluesky: ‪@illconceivedpodcast.comTumblr: @illconceivedpod FOLLOW JOSH: Website: joshboerman.comBluesky: @bosh.worstpossible.worldOther podcast: The Worst of All Possible WorldsStream: Traditional Scrench FOLLOW JUNE: Bluesky: @junlper.beerOther podcast: Kill The ComputerWriting: June's Substack ILL CONCEIVED THEME SONG BY: Caleb (Linktree / Bluesky)
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    1 hr and 32 mins
  • Simone & Malcolm Collins: The B-Side (PREVIEW)

    Simone & Malcolm Collins: The B-Side (PREVIEW)
    Jun 7 2026

    THIS IS A PREVIEW OF A BONUS B-SIDE EPISODE. For access to the full length version of this and every other biweekly bonus B-side, go to Patreon.com/illconceived

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    We weren't able to cover everything we wanted to discuss about the Collins family in the main episode, so this week we dug in for a look at the Based Camp Discord community, the Collins Institute's bespoke homeschool learning management system Parrhesia.io, and Malcom's attempt at crafting a core family theology.

    Plus, we read your letters about:

    • Josh blowing it on knowing anything about Lord of the Rings

    • The sociopolitical context of the University of St Andrews in Scotland

    • The creative output of genetic dead-enders like us
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    40 mins
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