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The Unearthly Bureau

The Unearthly Bureau

By: Kristian Lander Caroline McKendrick-Gibson and Martin Gibson
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The Unearthly Bureau – Exploring the Strange and Unexplained.Award-winning producers Caroline McKendrick Gibson & Kristian Lander (Seriously Strange, ASSAP Paranormal Webinars, Our Curious World) launch their bold new podcast. Dive into curated tales of the anomalous, gripping interviews, and fearless explorations of the unexplained. BWRT-trained psychotherapist Martin Gibson reveals the psychology behind our reactions to the weird and unearthly. Three Platinum Awards from the Fortean Film Festival (incl. Best Documentary) + Spotify Top 15%. Expertise, curiosity & mystery await. Follow nowKristian Lander, Caroline McKendrick-Gibson and Martin Gibson
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  • Why History Needs Ghosts: Somerset’s Secrets with Karin Beasant & Lisa Holman."
    Apr 8 2026

    The Unearthly Bureau, hosts Caroline McKendrick Gibson, Martin Gibson, and Kristian Lander dive into the symbiotic relationship between local heritage, true crime and the supernatural.

    We are joined by two powerhouse guests: Karin Beasant (Paranormal Consultant for Visit Somerset) and acclaimed author Lisa Holman. Together, we explore why hauntings aren't just "scary stories"—they are often the only thing keeping forgotten histories alive.

    In this episode, we uncover:

    • The Visit Somerset Connection: How paranormal tourism is revitalizing historical landmarks.

    • True Crime & The Unexplained: The thin line between a historical tragedy and a modern-day haunting.

    • The Researcher’s Burden: How Lisa Holman uses archives to validate (or debunk) oral legends.

    • The "Haunted Heritage" Effect: Why some of the UK's most infamous locations rely on their ghosts to preserve their walls.

    Whether you're a history buff, a true crime enthusiast, or a paranormal investigator, this episode challenges you to look at "haunted" sites as living museums of our past.


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    1 hr and 37 mins
  • Why Every Haunted House Isn't Full of Serial Killers: Penny G. Morgan on Real Historical Research
    Apr 1 2026

    Uncover the truth behind haunted histories with acclaimed author and historian Penny G. Morgan. In this thought-provoking episode of The Unearthly Bureau, Penny reveals why accurate research is crucial in paranormal investigations – from debunking overused tropes like black monks and serial killers in every house, to explaining misunderstood Victorian traditions like "laying out" the dead. Discover how bad history spreads, the real harm of misinformation (including threats to researchers), and why knowing too much about a location can create bias – or powerful validation.

    Penny shares personal stories, including family ties to 10 Rillington Place and Reginald Christie, and explores the evolving role of historians in ghost hunts. Essential listening for anyone serious about blending facts with phenomena.

    Hosted by Martin Gibson, Kristian Lander and Caroline McKendrick Gibson – dive deep into the ethics and excitement of getting paranormal history right.

    Listen now on Spotify and YouTube, and subscribe for more unearthly truths! #TheUnearthlyBureau

    Episode Chapters with Timecodes

    • 00:00:00 - 00:04:17: Pre-Show Banter & Podcast IntroductionCasual chat and welcome to the episode on historical accuracy.
    • 00:04:17 - 00:08:53: Why Research Matters in Paranormal InvestigationsPenny introduces her background and the origins of Haunted Histories.
    • 00:08:53 - 00:13:34: Common Misconceptions: Serial Killers, Monks & Funeral HomesDebunking overused tropes in haunted locations.
    • 00:13:34 - 00:18:02: Real-World Consequences of Bad HistoryDeath threats, family impact, and harmful misinformation.
    • 00:18:02 - 00:23:33: Personal Stories: Family Ties to 10 Rillington Place & False ClaimsCarolyn shares her Christie connection; examples of fabricated histories.
    • 00:23:33 - 00:30:21: Victorian Traditions: Dead Rooms, Laying Out & ConsumptionExplaining historical practices often mistaken for hauntings.
    • 00:30:21 - 00:40:06: Ethical Challenges & Public Reactions to DebunkingHandling backlash and the responsibility of sharing facts.
    • 00:40:06 - 00:50:12: Sources, Records & Modern Access to HistoryCensus data, newspapers, Ancestry, and the ease of post-1800s research.
    • 00:50:12 - 01:00:45: Bias in Investigations & Knowing Too Much HistoryAndy Guy’s forwarded question answered; managing prior knowledge.
    • 01:00:45 - 01:10:30: Group Dynamics: Historians vs. Paranormal TeamsBalancing skills, public vs. private events, and evolving attitudes.
    • 01:10:30 - 01:24:18: The Onus on Researchers & Maintaining CredibilityEthical publishing, credibility of printed work, and future of research.
    • 01:24:18 - 01:31:47: Question for Next Guest & Final Thoughts on Team BalancePenny’s question forward; importance of diverse investigation skills.
    • 01:31:47 - 01:42:00: Closing Thanks & Advice for Aspiring ResearchersWrap-up and Penny’s key advice: “Follow that loose thread.”


    Unearthly Media and Socials

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1431644778395475

    Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@TheUnearthlyBureau

    Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4dNtNONh47RTDD30CcSaIq

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    1 hr and 34 mins
  • Andy Guy: The Man Turning Haunted Locations into Data-Driven Laboratories
    Mar 31 2026

    Dive deep into the science behind hauntings with Andy Guy, founder of SCIRE – an experimental technology company rooted in the Latin word for "to know."


    In this captivating episode of The Unearthly Bureau, Andy reveals how a single offhand comment sparked his 15-year quest to track environmental factors in paranormal events. From building custom data loggers that detect anomalous magnetic spikes and mysterious radiation drop-offs, to debunking common gear like K2 meters and "spooky" dolls – discover why group dynamics, mindset, and collective energy might be the real keys to triggering phenomena.


    Explore rabbit holes like ultrasound fears, mirror neurons influencing emotions, poltergeist patterns, and the future of long-term data logging in haunted locations. Andy shares unforgettable cases (including a wild night at Woodchester Mansion), book recommendations, and his vision for collaborative paranormal research.

    Don't miss Andy's book recommendations and his response to a question set by previous guest Louise Joy! The Morbid Tourist!


    Hosted by Kristian Lander, Caroline McKendrick Gibson, and Martin Gibson – join us for a grounded, data-driven journey into anomalous phenomena that challenges misconceptions and pushes the boundaries of what's possible.

    Listen now on Spotify and YouTube, and subscribe for more unearthly explorations!

    Episode Chapters with Timecodes

    • 00:00:00 - 00:01:09: Podcast Intro and Welcoming Andy Guy from SCIRE
    • 00:01:09 - 00:03:34: Origins of SCIRE and the Spark of Environmental Research
    • 00:03:34 - 00:07:18: Misconceptions in Data Logging and Paranormal Gear
    • 00:07:18 - 00:11:04: Psychology of Collecting Data and Defining Anomalies
    • 00:11:04 - 00:16:05: EMF, Frequencies, and Practical Debunking Tools
    • 00:16:05 - 00:21:41: Public Fears Around Frequencies and How K2 Meters Actually Work
    • 00:21:41 - 00:26:40: Psychological Biases, Pattern-Seeking, and Group Dynamics
    • 00:26:40 - 00:33:20: Andy's Journey from Skeptic to Collaborative Researcher
    • 00:33:20 - 00:37:09: The Value of Anecdotes and Emerging Variables
    • 00:37:09 - 00:58:21: Deep Dive: Temperature Spots, Radiation Anomalies, and Radon Gas
    • 00:58:21 - 01:05:40: Mindset, Trust, and Collective Energy in Phenomena
    • 01:05:40 - 01:13:29: Unexplained Cases – Magnetic Spikes at Woodchester Mansion
    • 01:13:29 - 01:18:12: Guest Question on "Silly" Gear + Cat Balls Explained
    • 01:18:12 - 01:25:31: Book Recommendations and Warnings About Fake Online History
    • 01:25:31 - 01:30:14: The Future of SCIRE – Advanced Loggers and Location Partnerships
    • 01:30:14 - 01:36:00: Mirror Neurons, Emotional Fields, Animal Mourning & Wrap-Up



    Unearthly Media and Socials


    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1431644778395475

    Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@TheUnearthlyBureau

    Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4dNtNONh47RTDD30CcSaIq

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    1 hr and 37 mins
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