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Grow or Go

Grow or Go

By: Chris Jones and Matt Silasiri
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We talk about Surfing the Sigmoid Curve. Or in other words: how everything, and everyone will experience inception, growth, maturity, and finally decline. But how do businesses, products, or people continue to grow both personally and professionally? We interview founders, business owners, professionals, and growth-minded individuals who have found success. And they share how they made it happen. We have 1 rule. Don't. Be. Boring. Hosted by Chris Jones, CEO, and co-owner of the largest business brokerage firm in the US, and Matt Silasiri, VP of Business Development. https://www.tnma.comChris Jones and Matt Silasiri Economics Leadership Management & Leadership
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  • Ep. 46 - Evolving as a Serial Entrepreneur: Starting, Growing, Selling Multiple Companies - Gregg Saunders
    Jun 23 2026

    Gregg Saunders is one of those Entrepreneurs that can't sit still. Over the course of multiple decades, Gregg has started, grown, and sold a handful of companies. A couple of years ago, Sunbelt Business Advisors and True North M&A helped Gregg and his partners exit Student Experience, which was a business that helped students get into the healthcare field to learn, grow, and build careers.

    Now, Gregg helps business owners implement EOS and transform their companies to new levels. What are the key things that amplify certain companies compared to others? What do you need to address within your business?

    Connect with Gregg: gregg.saunders@eosworldwide.com

    Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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    45 mins
  • Ep. 45 - Selling a Tree Care Business: The Green Industry Playbook - Brittany Onken
    Jun 16 2026

    For Brittany and Eric Onken, business ownership has been nothing short of an adventure. Starting and scaling right out of college cutting lawns, they quickly grew and established themselves as a trusted player in the industry. Not so soon after they sold off their contracts and transitioned into tree care; completely starting fresh and tackling a new and bigger beast.

    Brittany shares all about the trials, the tribulations, the successes, and most importantly what exiting her business was like. What does she wish every busy owner knew ahead of a sale? How can she now help you exit your business successfully? What does it really take to set your business up for success?

    Reach out to Brittany.

    Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.


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    36 mins
  • Ep. 44 - Building & Exiting an In-Home Healthcare Company in Minnesota - Burhan Ali
    May 27 2026

    It takes guts and a whole lot of sacrifice to build a business right out of college. But for those who have the grit and determination, like Burhan Ali, anything is possible.

    Apex Home Care, now Amivie, is a staple in the Minneapolis community that helps individuals stay independent and comfortable in their own space. The business went through some major changes that resulted in exceptional growth, but getting there wasn't easy.

    Hear Burhan's story about why him and his sister took the leap of faith to bet on themselves, and how it set them up to pursue their dreams.


    Check out Burhan's new business! Sabah Coffee

    Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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    45 mins
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