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Grow Law Podcast

Grow Law Podcast

By: Sasha Berson Grow Law
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The Grow Law Podcast brings you insightful conversations with leaders in the legal business field, discussing practical ideas that will help you grow your law firm, expand your reach, generate more revenue, and make your law firm more valuable.

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  • “Why Should I Choose YOU?” The Question 95% of Law Firms Can't Answer — with Stuart Foster
    Jun 24 2026

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    Every PI law firm sounds *exactly* the same. “No fee till we win. We're the best.” Guess what? Clients don’t care! In this episode, Sasha Berson sits down with Stuart Foster, Co-Founder of Law Firm Fractional CMOs, who reveals his 3-step framework to find your TRUE differentiator or “your unique color jacket.” He breaks down the marketing strategy that took one firm from 30 to 600 qualified leads in 9 months, and why 40% of your marketing budget is being wasted. Bonus: You *must* hear his intake horror stories of one lawyer taking his own calls, and another redirecting them to untrained offshore speakers. Tune in now.

    📰 About Stuart Foster:
    Stuart Foster is not your typical marketing guy. As former VP of Global Brand Marketing at Hilton and CMO of Topgolf, he's driven hundreds of millions in revenue for some of the world's most iconic brands over his 30+ years in business. Today, as Co-Founder of Law Firm Fractional CMOs, he's bringing that same Fortune 500 firepower to law firms, helping them build robust growth engines, slash wasted spend, and stand out in a “sea of sameness.” He’s taken firms from 30 to 600 qualified leads in 9 months, and is committed to ensuring you achieve success in your own firm.

    👉 Sasha and Stuart explore:
    — His 3-step process to find your TRUE differentiator that competitors can't copy.
    — The "pay peanuts, get monkeys" philosophy… why trying to save money with a junior marketer is costly!
    — How 40% of your law firm’s marketing budget is probably being wasted.
    — How one firm signed 600 cases without spending a single extra dollar on marketing!
    — The *only* KPI you must demand from your marketing team (Hint: It’s not “impressions” or “clicks”)

    👉 Main Takeaways from the Episode:
    — Pull up your last marketing report — if it shows impressions, clicks, and traffic but not leads and signed cases, you need to demand accountability from your team.
    — Over the next 6 months, ask clients two questions: "Why did you choose us?" and "What would you tell a friend about us?" — the pattern in those answers is your differentiation point.

    📞 Connect with Stuart Foster:
    • Website: https://www.lawfirm-cmo.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hstuartfoster/


    📞Connect with Sasha Berson:
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grow-law/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grow_law/
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@growlaw
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/growlaw
    • Email: info@growlaw.co
    • Phone: (954) 620-5521

    #LawyerWebsite #LawyerSEO #LawFirmMarketing

    If you enjoyed today’s show, please leave a review and subscribe so you never miss an episode. For more information and links to all of the resources mentioned in today’s episode, visit https://growlaw.co/

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    45 mins
  • Reality Check: Why *No One* Will Buy Your Law Firm (#1 Mistake) — with Jordan Couch
    Jun 17 2026

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    “Why won’t private equity touch my law firm?” Because you may have nothing of value to sell! In this episode, Sasha Berson sits down with Jordan Couch, partner at Palace Law, who has acquired 6 law firms. His take is extremely BRUTAL: “Everything you have of value… cannot technically be sold.” Your clients can leave. Your lawyers can leave. And your “systems” are probably just in your head… meaning they’re *worthless* during an acquisition. Jordan exposes what buyers actually look for in 2026 (it’s surprising!). If you want to sell your law firm at a *SERIOUS* profit, press “Play” today.

    📰 About Jordan Couch:
    Jordan Couch is a partner at Palace Law and a plaintiff-side attorney who has acquired 6 law firms — giving him a rare, inside look at what actually makes a firm valuable! With 10+ years in practice, Jordan has built systems that allow his firm to scale, streamline operations, and convert clients with brilliant strategies like “one call hiring.” He’s the author of 411 Tips for Solo and Small Firm Lawyers and a recognized leader in the legal space, serving 8+ years in WSBA leadership roles. His mission: turn lawyer-run jobs into real, sellable businesses that buyers are eager to invest in.

    👉 Sasha and Jordan explore:
    — Why most law firms are NOT sellable, and the brutal reason “your talent and clients” don’t count as *real* value.
    — How Jordan evaluated and acquired 6 law firms, and the exact strategy he used to turn their case pipelines into HUGE profit.
    — The “gas pedal” problem: why most law firm marketing stops working the second you stop paying.
    — The risk of employee turnover during acquisitions: why one firm lost everyone overnight while another retained its ENTIRE team!
    — How to systematize what’s in your head (using AI) so your firm can grow and sell for a bomb even without you.


    👉 Main Takeaways from the Episode:
    — Decide today: are you going for more clients (volume) or higher-value clients (premium)? Then align everything (pricing, intake, marketing, client experience) to that one path.
    — Review your intake process. Are you making prospects wait days to hire you? Create a script, train your team, and aim to convert qualified leads on the first call.

    📞 Connect with Jordan Couch:
    • Website: https://www.palacelaw.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanlcouch


    📞Connect with Sasha Berson:
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grow-law/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grow_law/
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@growlaw
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/growlaw
    • Email: info@growlaw.co
    • Phone: (954) 620-5521

    #LawyerWebsite #LawyerSEO #LawFirmMarketing

    If you enjoyed today’s show, please leave a review and subscribe so you never miss an episode. For more information and links to all of the resources mentioned in today’s episode, visit https://growlaw.co/

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    37 mins
  • Why 96% of Law Firms Never Hit $1M (+ What the Other 4% Do Differently) — with Andy Goldstrom
    Jun 10 2026

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    Most law firm owners NEVER scale past $1M. You can be the exception! In this eye-opening episode, Sasha Berson sits down with Andy Goldstrom, Managing Partner at Midcourse Advisors and author of Grow Like a Pro, whose clients grow at an average of 40% per year (that’s 8X the industry norm!). Andy breaks down the main reason why 96% of firms plateau before hitting $1M, how one client went from $20K to $200K/month in under 18 months, and why "doing everything" is the real saboteur of your growth. P.S. You do *not* want to miss Andy's blueprint for turning a $10M law firm into a $13M exit, by design, not by accident. Tune in now.

    📰 About Andy Goldstrom:
    Andy Goldstrom is the Managing Partner of Midcourse Advisors and now the lead advisor at Grow Law, where he helps law firm owners grow their practices quickly and profitably. A two-time Inc. 500 business owner, Andy built a real estate brokerage division from a single employee to 500+ with 30%+ margins, then took over and scaled a national recycling company before both companies were sold to Fortune 500 acquirers. He has hired over 500 people, run a $100M+ firm, taught entrepreneurship as a university professor, and spent the last decade coaching law firm owners to grow on average 40% a year — roughly 8x the typical pace. He's also the author of Grow Like a Pro, with a new edition built specifically for law firm owners releasing this week.

    👉 Sasha and Andy explore:
    — Why Andy's clients grow at 40% a year while most firms crawl at 3–5%
    — The one-client focus that took a firm from $20K to $200K a month in 18 months
    — Why only 4% of firms reach $1M, and just 1% sustain it past two years
    — The 7-year service life cycle, and why getting "comfortable" is where your growth dies
    — Why most law firm advisors are one-hit wonders, and what three real exits actually teach
    — The lieutenant-vs-specialist test for spotting your next leader
    — Why even great operators keep two advisors on call, never just one

    👉 Main Takeaways from the Episode:
    — Pick one core client type this quarter and pour your marketing, networking, and systems into it. Focus, not hustle, is what unlocks 40% growth.
    — Run the "lieutenant test" on your team: a real leader says "I've got this — it's already underway," a specialist waits for instructions. Identify which you actually have.
    — Start your exit prep now, not six months before you sell. Build the pipeline, systems, people, and succession plan an investor will pay a premium for.

    📞 Connect with Andy Goldstrom:
    • Website: https://midcourseadvisors.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andygoldstrom/


    📞Connect with Sasha Berson:
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grow-law/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grow_law/
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@growlaw
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/growlaw
    • Email: info@growlaw.co
    • Phone: (954) 620-5521

    #LawyerWebsite #LawyerSEO #LawFirmMarketing

    If you enjoyed today’s show, please leave a review and subscribe so you never miss an episode. For more information and links to all of the resources mentioned in today’s episode, visit https://growlaw.co/

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    40 mins
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