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Full Stack Moms

Full Stack Moms

By: Shannon Curran & Mallory Lee
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Work like you’re not a parent. Parent like you don’t work. What if that whole system is wrong? This is Full Stack Moms, and we are Mallory Lee and Shannon Curran, two working moms navigating tech careers, parenting, and everything in between. We talk about why the traditional rules of work don’t fit modern parents and how women in tech are doing things differently. Through honest conversations and behind-the-scenes stories, this show explores careers, caregiving, ambition, and the messy reality of having it all, just not all at once. Connect with Mallory: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mallorylee/ Connect with Shannon: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannon-sweeny-curran/ Produced in partnership with Share Your Genius www.shareyourgenius.com© 2026 Shannon Curran & Mallory Lee Career Success Economics Parenting & Families Relationships
Episodes
  • Pregnant, Laid Off, Doubled My Salary: Leadership Lessons for Working Moms
    Jun 10 2026

    What happens when career growth, motherhood, and entrepreneurship collide?

    Amber Williams, head of RevOps and Chief Revenue Officer at Passetto, talks about her journey through tech leadership, maternity leave, and building a startup while raising a young child. Amber opens up about navigating layoffs while pregnant, doubling her income with the help of career coaching, and balancing high-pressure work with parenthood.

    In this conversation, Amber shares insights on mental load, work-life integration, spousal support, career pivots, starting a business, and the bravery that comes with making bold choices for family and self.

    If you’re a working parent navigating ambition, burnout, identity, or the constant juggle between career and home life, this episode will hit close to home.

    Jump into the conversation:

    (00:00) Meet Amber Williams

    (03:08) Fractional RevOps to startup cofounder

    (04:27) Business coaching and productized services

    (06:40) Coaching skepticism and asking for help

    (08:05) Biology major to RevOps leader

    (10:26) Pregnant, laid off, income doubled

    (13:17) Postpartum confidence and returning to work

    (15:36) Vision board becomes business launch

    (19:56) Refine Labs to Passetto full circle

    (20:55) Can moms have it all?

    (22:01) Journaling, reflection, and defining freedom

    (22:54) Always on and modern motherhood

    (25:09) Revenge bedtime procrastination and TV

    (26:18) Learning to ask for help

    (27:57) Ikea bed project resets mindset

    (29:41) Comfort shows, chores, and decompression

    (32:05) Maysember chaos and summer relief

    (32:58) Remote work and kid boundaries

    (37:07) Saves of the week


    Connect with Mallory Lee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mallorylee/

    Connect with Shannon Curran: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannon-sweeny-curran/

    Connect with Amber Williams: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amber-victoria/

    Check out Passetto: https://www.passetto.com/


    Produced in partnership with Share Your Genius

    www.shareyourgenius.com

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    43 mins
  • The Hidden Mental Load of Being the Working Mom
    Jun 3 2026

    What happens when the “corporate husband” is actually the wife?

    Chantel Hirschel, Director of Revenue Operations at Sana, talks about her career growth, motherhood, and building a nontraditional family dynamic. Chantel opens up about her husband’s life-changing accident, becoming the sole provider, balancing leadership in tech with raising two young children, and the emotional realities of postpartum recovery while working in high-pressure environments.

    In this conversation, Chantel opens up about parental leave, stay-at-home dads, mental load, gender expectations, childcare, flexible work, and the sacrifices that come with designing a life that actually works for your family.

    If you’re a working parent navigating ambition, burnout, identity, or the constant juggle between career and home life, this episode will hit close to home.

    Jump into the conversation:

    (00:00) Meet Chantel Hirschel

    (03:22) Chantel’s early career and breadwinner decisions

    (03:55) Coping with tragedy and change

    (05:35) Quitting UPS to take new risks

    (07:38) Fast returns and postpartum realities

    (11:58) Long tenure and leave experiences

    (14:08) Managing work flexibility during pregnancy

    (17:01) Dad bias at medical appointments

    (19:34) Learning to share parenting responsibilities

    (20:47) Solo parenting strengths emerge over time

    (24:26) Finding flow with three children

    (29:34) Advice on stay-at-home spouse setup

    (32:39) Managing mental load and letting go

    (34:22) Save of the week parenting stories


    Connect with Mallory Lee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mallorylee/

    Connect with Shannon Curran: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannon-sweeny-curran/

    Connect with Chantel Hirschel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chantel-hirschel/

    Check out Sana: http://www.sanabenefits.com


    Produced in partnership with Share Your Genius

    www.shareyourgenius.com


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    42 mins
  • Why Parental Leave is Non-Negotiable for Working Moms
    May 27 2026

    Balancing a career and navigating motherhood requires more than ambition, it requires resilience and bold decision-making.
    Barbara Nicholas, CEO of Polly, shares her journey of growing up with limited resources, becoming a young mom at 18, working double shifts to make ends meet, and still managing to carve a path all the way to the C-suite.

    Barbara opens up about one of the most defining moments of her career: returning to work after having her second daughter, only to find her employer hadn't prepared a proper space for her to pump. What followed was a decision that changed everything, and a lesson she's carried into every leadership role since.


    We also dig into the state of parental leave in the US today, including the disheartening rollbacks at companies like Deloitte and Zoom. Barbara shares how Polly approaches leave and why she believes supporting working parents isn't just the right thing to do, it's simply good business.


    This one is honest, fiery, and full of hard-won wisdom from a woman who's been figuring it out since day one.

    Jump into the conversation:

    (00:00) Introduction and family setup

    (01:19) Barbara’s journey to becoming CEO

    (03:09) Becoming a young mom and early career challenges

    (05:09) Maternity leave and pumping struggles at work

    (07:53) Leaving her job and reclaiming career agency

    (09:37) Setting boundaries and having bold employer conversations

    (15:30) Paid leave policies and equity at Polly

    (19:23) Corporate parental leave rollbacks and workplace trends

    (21:54) Childcare costs, economics, and career impact

    (30:32) Generational reflections, leadership, and motherhood

    (35:21) Save of the week segment


    Connect with Barbara Nicholas: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-nicholas-polly/

    Connect with Shannon Curran: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannon-sweeny-curran/

    Connect with Mallory Lee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mallorylee/

    Check out Polly: https://www.polly.ai/


    Produced in partnership with Share Your Genius

    www.shareyourgenius.com


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    41 mins
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