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Deans Counsel

Deans Counsel

By: David Ikenberry / James Ellis / Ken Kring
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Being a Dean in today’s modern university is without a doubt one of the most challenging jobs in higher education. With ever changing tensions and pressures from conflicting constituencies, the job can be both overwhelming yet intensely invigorating at the same time. However, by design, it’s also one of the most lonely jobs in the Academy. Where can one turn for confidential advice? In this podcast we interview Business School Deans peer-to-peer to hear their perspective on a wide variety of pressing issues. Please join your panelists Ken Kring, Senior Client Partner in the Philadelphia office for the search firm Korn Ferry and Co- Managing Director of their Global Education Practice, Jim Ellis, former dean of the Marshal School at the University of Southern California and Dave Ikenberry, former dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado Boulder for this latest edition of ….. “Deans Counsel.”Copyright 2023 Deans Counsel Career Success Economics Management Management & Leadership
Episodes
  • 87: Francois Ortalo-Magne (London Business School) on Business Research
    May 1 2026

    On this episode of Deans Counsel, hosts Ken Kring and Dave Ikenberry welcome back to the podcast François Ortalo-Magné, Executive Dean (External Relations) and Professor of Management Practice in Economics and Strategy & Entrepreneurship at London Business School. He served as the School's ninth Dean from 2017 to 2024, leading it through the COVID-19 pandemic, geopolitical upheaval, and the sustained pressures facing global higher education. Before that, he was Dean of the Wisconsin School of Business, leading the school and university through a period of significant institutional innovation. Across sixteen years in senior leadership and sixteen years as a professor of economics, he has developed a distinctive perspective: rigorous academic research combined with operational accountability under pressure.

    That combination now shapes his work with students, senior executives, and boards. François helps leaders make better decisions under pressure — not through generic frameworks, but by bringing academic research in economics, psychology, and the humanities to bear on the specific, high-stakes problems they face. His approach is grounded in three questions: How do we frame this decision clearly? How do we strengthen the decision process? How do we live with the consequences — including the need for healing and repair?

    Francois addresses those questions, as well as such topics as:

    - The linkage between research and brand value

    - The different aspects of scholarship

    - Linking teaching to research funding

    - Addressing the headwinds of stakeholders

    - Sage advice to deans

    Learn more about François Ortalo-Magné.

    Comments/criticism/suggestions/feedback? We'd love to hear it. Drop us a note.

    Thanks for listening.

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    Produced by Joel Davis at Analog Digital Arts

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    DEANS COUNSEL: A podcast for deans and academic leadership.

    James Ellis | Moderator | Dean of the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California (2007-2019)

    David Ikenberry | Moderator | Dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado-Boulder (2011-2016)

    Ken Kring | Moderator | Co-Managing Director, Global Education Practice and Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry

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    39 mins
  • 86: Brooke Elliott (Illinois) on Expanding Access
    Apr 17 2026

    On this episode of Deans Counsel, hosts Ken Kring and Dave Ikenberry speak with Brooke Elliott, the Josef and Margot Lakonishok Professor in Business and Dean of Gies College of Business at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. She leads the College in developing a compelling, strategic vision while continuing to build upon its distinctive brand and identity. This includes assessing and expanding Gies Business’ portfolio of on-campus and online programs to strengthen its position as an innovative leader among the nation’s best business schools.

    Prior to her current role, Brooke served as Executive Associate Dean of Academic Programs and EY Professor in Gies College of Business where she was responsible for providing strategic oversight of the Gies portfolio of academic degree and non-degree programs. Brooke also served as Associate Dean of Online where she was responsible for the development and execution of Gies’ strategy in online education and Head of the Department of Accountancy in Gies, leading one of the most innovative and high ranked accounting departments in the world.

    This conversation with Brooke touches on several topics, including:

    - Managing continual innovation

    - Leveraging on-line learning

    - AI and Accounting

    - Handling the drop in int’l students

    - Building a new business minor

    - Revenue management

    Learn more about Brooke Elliott.

    Comments/criticism/suggestions/feedback? We'd love to hear it. Drop us a note.

    Thanks for listening.

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    Produced by Joel Davis at Analog Digital Arts

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    DEANS COUNSEL: A podcast for deans and academic leadership.

    James Ellis | Moderator | Dean of the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California (2007-2019)

    David Ikenberry | Moderator | Dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado-Boulder (2011-2016)

    Ken Kring | Moderator | Co-Managing Director, Global Education Practice and Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry

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    34 mins
  • 85: David Thomas (Georgetown/Morehouse) on Transformational Vision
    Apr 3 2026

    On this episode of Deans Counsel, hosts Jim Ellis and Dave Ikenberry speak with David Thomas, President of Morehouse College and Dean and William Berkeley Chair (retired) at Georgetown University's McDonough School of Business.

    Since his installment in January 2018, he has led dynamic, purpose-driven advancement in Morehouse’s strategic and operational effectiveness, programmatic reach, and pedagogical innovation. Among other transformational successes, Dr. Thomas has overseen a fundraising acceleration which has generated nearly $330 million since his arrival—a giving total during his tenure that is higher than during any other presidential tenure in the history of the college. Under his leadership, Morehouse has extended its reach by launching its first online degree programs and has amplified its positioning as a center of intellectual discourse and social engagement in areas such as global leadership, professional equity, social justice, and innovation.

    Our discussion with David covers many topics, among them:

    - David's theory of transformation leadership

    - his Georgetown journey

    - building a strategic plan vs following strategic principles

    - approaching curricular change and completely designing an MBA curriculum

    - building student excellence

    Learn more about David Thomas.

    Comments/criticism/suggestions/feedback? We'd love to hear it. Drop us a note at feedback@deanscounsel.com

    Thanks for listening.

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    Produced by Joel Davis at Analog Digital Arts

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    DEANS COUNSEL: A podcast for deans and academic leadership.

    James Ellis | Moderator | Dean of the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California (2007-2019)

    David Ikenberry | Moderator | Dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado-Boulder (2011-2016)

    Ken Kring | Moderator | Co-Managing Director, Global Education Practice and Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry

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    39 mins
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