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Dead Frog in the Driveway

Dead Frog in the Driveway

By: Drew Rockwell Patricia Williams Joni B. Cole
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An author, a psychotherapist, and an entrepreneur walked into a bar. What came out is Dead Frog in the Driveway, a podcast that celebrates our potential as creative beings. No matter who you are. No matter what you might believe. No matter what you’ve been told. If you’ve ever wrestled with a blank page, a stuck idea, or a shifting sense of purpose, we hope you’ll find some inspiration from this podcast.

Our show is co-hosted by Joni B. Cole (www.jonibcole.com); Pat Williams, and Drew Rockwell, who still believes his Dead Frog in the Driveway story deserved a much better grade.

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Producer: Helmut Baer

Cover Art by Bartlett Leber

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Episodes
  • Episode 8 - "I'm no good at plotting."

    Episode 8 - "I'm no good at plotting."
    Jun 1 2026

    Of all the insecurities writers confront, this is one of the most vexing. But is it true? Or are these writers looking at plotting the wrong way? In this episode, Pat, Drew, and Joni offer insights into how plotting can (and should) be a process of discovery; how your characters can help you figure out what happens next; and how there comes a time when it is critical you impose structure on your story...but maybe that time is later than you think.
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    30 mins
  • Episode 7 - Why now? In times of angst, what is the role of creativity?

    Episode 7 - Why now? In times of angst, what is the role of creativity?
    May 18 2026

    What happens when fear hijacks our creative flow? In this episode, Joni, Drew, and Pat unpack how our nervous system shapes creativity—from openness to shutdown—and how perfectionism can be a body’s way of staying safe. With insights from Polyvagal Theory and simple tools like breath, movement, and community, they explore how awareness can turn fear from a block into fuel for making art.
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    31 mins
  • Can creativity help you know yourself better? - Ed Romanoff Interview

    Can creativity help you know yourself better? - Ed Romanoff Interview
    May 4 2026

    In this episode, Pat goes one-on-one with Ed Romanoff, an award-winning singer-songwriter, corporate storyteller, and the founder of PineRock, a global brand communications company based in New York City. Listen in as they discuss creative timetables, the risks creators face, and how sometimes our stories tell us things we didn’t even know about ourselves. https://www.edromanoff.com/
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    31 mins
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