Sean and Robert kick things off by magnanimously acknowledging that you are allowed to walk up and give them envelopes of cash at any time.

Former NHL video coach Kelly Forbes then joins the show (11:45) to talk about his career in Dallas, how the job of a video coach changed after the coach's challenge, what it was like working for seven different Stars head coaches, how he decided to step away from hockey, and why his phone blew up on Tuesday night.

Recent winner of the Italian hockey double Florian Wieser then stops by (1:09:15) to talk about his long and successful hockey career in Italy, why the Milan rink drama was overblown to begin with, memories of playing against current and former NHLers, North American vs. European hockey coaches, and whether he wants to be a really shouty coach himself (he does not).

Finally, (1:50:35) Sean wraps up the show by putting Robert on the spot, and the guys talk about the tough-but-great decisions independent media members have to make.

Sean and Robert kick the show off by talking about production improvements they can make after last week. Robert's wifi then decides to be funny by abandoning the segment, substantially improving its listenability.

They then (6:30) discuss playoff broadcasts and Tom Dundon's "thriftiness" as recently discoverd by the Portland Trailblazers.

Dimitri Filipovic of the PDOcast joins (36:30), and the group discusses how Dimitri got so much better at interviewing people than than people currently interviewing him, convincing NHL coaches and GMs to join his analytics conference, why Dallas isn't seen as more of a template for other franchises to model, and his thoughts on a few of the playoff series so far.

After a brief interlude in which the guys reflect on how great Dimitri is, they are joined by their second great guest: Nick Ciavarella (1:25:01) of Skateskins and Just Dishin. They talk about the Buffalo Sabres, Nick's video work with the NHL (and others), and how more personality can find its way into the league.

Check out Dimitri's Hockey PDOCast Patreon here.

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A beer-league goalie named Sean talks with a USA Hockey goalie expert, and everyone learns something. Robert learns his own hard lessons about audio engineering.

After some producer notes from last week's episode (1:00), Sean proposes a crazy play-in rule the NHL should think about (9:30). The guys also reflect on Episode 2 guest Rick Bowness's blunt comments about the Blue Jackets (15:48) after Columbus's final game of the season.

Steve Thompson of USA Hockey joins the show (30:20) with some expert insight into goaltending development, why the RVH is misunderstood, how to avoid some common mistakes in developing younger goaltenders, and how crucial goaltending always seems to be whenever USA hockey teams win gold.

Sean (1:35:00) takes a moment to touch on the tough spot smaller college hockey programs are in when it comes to recruiting and retaining players in the transfer portal landscape.

Finally, (1:40:30) Utah Mammoth analyst and former NHL player Dominic Moore joins the show to talk about playing all 82 games in a season, whom Utah would prefer to face in the first round, how he made the journey from the ice to the broadcast booth, how the Spengler Cup took his career to Switzerland, and one Jaromír Jágr story appropriate enough to share.