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Pick up gloves, not knives."

In this heavy-hitting episode, hosts Richard and Mark are joined by Darrel McLeish, founder of the Christian Boxing Alliance (CBA). Darrel’s journey is one of radical transformation—from facing the consequences of street violence firsthand to becoming a leading voice in youth intervention through the "Sweet Science."

With knife crime continuing to impact our communities in 2026, Darrel explains how the CBA uses boxing as more than just a sport. It is a tool for discipline, emotional control, and spiritual growth. We dive into the "why" behind the violence and how a boxing ring can provide the "gang" and sense of belonging that so many young people are searching for in the wrong places.

In this episode, we discuss:

Darrel’s Journey: How faith and boxing turned a life of aggression into a life of purpose.

Emotional Regulation: Why "acting on emotion" is the biggest threat to youth today and how boxing fixes it.

The CBA Mission: Bridging the gap between the church, the gym, and at-risk youth.

Real Solutions: What Richard, Mark, and Darrel believe is actually needed to stop the knife crime epidemic.

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Listen in to Richard and Mark as they enjoy their latest jolly good natter, talking about Dr Who and taking questions from listeners to try and clarify whether they are related.

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Richard reveals that two of his compositions have recently been premiered in Mexico, prompting one of the listeners to enquire about Mark’s musical prowess too(!)

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We were delighted when Sam from the Big Brother house agreed to join us for a jolly good natter. You’ll recall what a live wire he was during the series and he stayed true to form on this occasion too! We do hope you enjoy hearing his recollections.

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Richard and Mark settle into Alistair’s American Dinner in Crystal Palace for a laid-back breakfast and a round of listener questions.

Between cutlery and the comfort of a booth, they dive into thoughtful chats, and the kind of banter that makes you feel like you’re right there with them.

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Later this year, the wonderfully talented up-and-coming guitarist, Fabio Fernandes will be releasing an album made up entirely of music written especially for him by Richard! So,naturally, we just had to invite him to become a guest on 'A Jolly Good Natter' to talk about the project and to give a demonstration of his remarkable musical skill.

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Richard and Mark take a trip down memory lane, comparing the TV shows, sweets, and questionable snacks that shaped their childhoods — and debating which ones still hold up today. Between the nostalgia, they dive into the world of boxing.

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This is the audio version of this episode if you’d like to watch the video version, please visit our YouTube channel It’s the episode you’ve been waiting for! Tate became best buddies with Richard in the big brother house so it was only a matter of time before he featured as a special guest on A Jolly Good Natter. Now’s your chance to listen in to the lively and frank recollections of theses iconic housemates as they relive their extraordinary experience of participating in this amazing show.