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By: Misha Shalaginov Michael Dubrovsky Xinghui Yin
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Technical interviews with the greatest scientists in the world.© 2026 Misha Shalaginov, Michael Dubrovsky, Xinghui Yin Nature & Ecology Science
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  • The Atomic Physics Behind Neutral Atom Computers | Mark Saffman
    Jun 30 2026

    Why are so many companies betting on neutral atoms to build the first useful quantum computers?

    In this episode, we speak with Mark Saffman, professor at the University of Wisconsin–Madison and one of the pioneers of neutral atom quantum computing. Over the past two decades, Saffman has helped transform Rydberg atoms from a theoretical idea into one of the leading architectures for scalable, fault-tolerant quantum computing.

    We explore the physics of optical tweezers and Rydberg blockade, how neutral atoms perform quantum logic and create entanglement, and why this platform offers unique advantages in connectivity and scalability. Saffman also discusses the engineering challenges of improving gate fidelity, implementing quantum error correction, and scaling from small laboratory experiments to processors containing millions of qubits.

    We also discuss the origins of companies like Infleqtion, the rapid growth of the neutral atom ecosystem, and what it will take for quantum computers to solve meaningful scientific and industrial problems.

    Whether you're interested in quantum computing, atomic physics, quantum error correction, computer architecture, or the future of information processing, this episode provides a deep technical look at one of the most promising paths toward practical quantum computers.

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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro and Reads
    02:45 - Neutral Atoms vs Superconductors and Ions
    07:30 - Rydberg Atoms
    12:49 - Practical Considerations for Rydberg Atoms
    19:04 - From Atomic Physics to Quantum Gates
    29:49 - Increasing Trap Loading
    38:27 - Evolution of Rydberg Gates
    45:05 - Limits of Rydberg Fidelity
    49:49 - Scaling Neutral Atom Arrays
    53:47 - Atomic Species and QEC
    1:03:38 - History of Infleqtion
    1:10:27 - Mark’s Outlook on the Future
    1:15:08 - Caltech and Peter Shor
    1:20:00 - Advice for Young Scientists

    #quantumphysics #quantumcomputing #physics #computerscience

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    1 hr and 23 mins
  • Silicon Photonics and the Future of AI Scaling | John Bowers
    Jun 16 2026

    Why are some of the world's largest technology companies betting on silicon photonics?

    In this episode, we speak with John Bowers, professor at UC Santa Barbara and one of the pioneers of silicon photonics, about the technologies that are transforming AI infrastructure and modern data centers. Bowers explains why moving data has become one of the central challenges in computing, how optical communication is overcoming the limitations of traditional electrical interconnects, and why light is increasingly being used to connect processors, servers, and entire data centers.

    We explore the origins of silicon photonics, from early optical communications research to the development of integrated photonic devices that can be manufactured using semiconductor processes. Bowers discusses the engineering challenges of combining lasers with silicon, the breakthroughs that enabled heterogeneous integration, and how decades of research helped turn silicon photonics into a commercial technology deployed at global scale.

    We examine the growing demands of artificial intelligence, where the movement of information between processors has become just as important as computation itself. Bowers explains why bandwidth, power consumption, and interconnect density are emerging as critical bottlenecks for AI systems, and how optical links are enabling the next generation of large-scale computing architectures.

    We also discuss data center networking, optical interconnects, co-packaged optics, heterogeneous integration, semiconductor manufacturing, photonic integrated circuits, telecommunications, AI hardware, and the future of warehouse-scale computing. Throughout the episode, Bowers provides an inside look at how advances in photonics are reshaping the infrastructure that powers modern computing.

    Whether you're interested in silicon photonics, optical communications, semiconductor engineering, computer architecture, AI hardware, data center design, networking, integrated photonics, electrical engineering, or the future of computing, this episode provides a deep technical exploration of one of the most important technologies behind the AI revolution.

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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro
    01:19 - Why Data Centers Need Photonics
    05:28 - Bowers's Interest in Physics
    10:09 - Lessons From Bell Labs
    12:58 - Semiconductor Lasers
    18:31 - Teaching Entrepreneurship
    23:21 - Heterogeneous Integration
    29:40 - Why Silicon Photonics Needed Better Light Sources
    32:00 - Heterogeneous Integration vs Direct Growth
    44:04 - The Packing Problem in Photonics
    47:49 - Narrow Linewidth Lasers
    51:31 - Data Centers in Space
    59:19 - Lessons from the Telecom Bubble
    1:02:17 - Recent Breakthroughs in Photonics
    1:04:32 - What is a Frequency Comb?
    1:07:07 - Solitons and Microcombs
    1:14:48 - Optical Computing and AI
    1:19:09 - How Bowers Starts Companies
    1:21:56 - Was Bowers Late to Any Trends?
    1:22:51 - What would Bowers Build with Unlimited Resources?
    1:24:38 - Creating Bell Labs for AI
    1:26:35 - Competition, Endurance, and Personality
    1:30:41 - The Best Problems for Young Scientists to Tackle
    1:37:47 - Advice for Researchers Who Want to Keep Real Depth

    #photonics #datacenter #siliconphotonics #computerscience #artificialintelligence

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    1 hr and 39 mins
  • Bioelectricity, Morphogenesis, and Two-Headed Worms | Michael Levin
    Jun 2 2026

    How can a flatworm regenerate a complete head after being cut in half?

    In this episode, we speak with Michael Levin, developmental biologist and director of the Allen Discovery Center at Tufts University, about the emerging field of developmental bioelectricity. Levin explains how voltage gradients, ion channels, and gap junctions form a layer of biological control that operates alongside genetics and biochemistry to regulate embryonic development, regeneration, and anatomical patterning.

    We explore the experimental foundations of bioelectricity research, including the use of voltage-sensitive dyes, ion channel manipulation, and computational models to read and write electrical information in living tissues. Levin discusses how bioelectric signals help establish left-right asymmetry in embryos, coordinate communication across developing tissues, and encode large-scale anatomical information that individual cells cannot possess on their own.

    The conversation examines classic and surprising experiments from the field, including the creation of two-headed planarian worms, the induction of ectopic eyes in frog embryos, and the restoration of normal development after severe genetic and environmental disruptions. Levin explains how bioelectric circuits can act as a control architecture for morphogenesis, allowing tissues to make collective decisions about growth, form, and regeneration.

    We also discuss voltage gradients, membrane potentials, gap junction networks, developmental pattern formation, regenerative medicine, collective cellular intelligence, and the relationship between electrophysiology and gene regulation. Throughout the episode, Levin argues that understanding development requires looking beyond genes alone to the dynamic electrical communication networks that coordinate living systems across scales.

    Whether you're interested in developmental biology, embryology, regeneration, electrophysiology, bioelectricity, morphogenesis, systems biology, ion channels, pattern formation, or the future of regenerative medicine, this episode provides a deep technical exploration of how electrical signals help shape living organisms.

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    Website: https://www.632nm.com

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro
    01:40 - Early Interest in Bioelectricity
    05:22 - External Electric Stimulation
    19:54 - Two-Headed Planarians
    31:40 - Designing Bioelectric Experimental Methods
    56:37 - Different Model Organisms
    1:07:34 - TAME Theory
    1:24:16 - Xenobots and Advice for Young Scientists

    #planaria #morphology #neuroscience #biology #bioelectricity

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    1 hr and 27 mins
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