As the poem goes, “They f-you up, your mom and dad. They may not mean to, but they do.” If Father's Day has ever felt more like something you just get through than something you celebrate, this episode is for you.

This week on Becoming You, your host Suzy Welch sits down with Vienna Pharaon — licensed marriage and family therapist and author of The Origins of You — for a conversation they were both a little ambivalent to have. The topic: what happens when your relationship with your father is complicated. And why that has been so hard to say out loud.

They dig into what it actually looks like to do the healing work, why no contact is more nuanced than the internet makes it seem, and whether we ever really "make our peace" with a parent who hurt us. They both share their own complicated relationships with their fathers, and what it means when that relationship doesn’t look like what you’d expect. If Father's Day has ever had a charge to it for you, this conversation might be exactly what you need.

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