Curious as Hell S01E05: The Leader With the Fewest Blind Spots Wins. Not the Smartest. Here's Why.
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The skills that got you promoted are the same ones quietly strangling your team's potential.
Jayson Krause spent eight years as a funded national team bobsled athlete before discovering that the most important performance arena is not a track. It is the room where a senior leader decides whether to solve a problem or ask a question. Since 2010, he has worked with CEOs, founders, and senior executives across Canada and the US, and his message is consistent: curiosity is not a soft skill. It is an operational discipline with a measurable ROI.
This conversation goes directly at the habits, reward systems, and hidden costs that keep smart leaders stuck, and the framework for getting unstuck.
Key themes from this episode:
- The three triggers that bring leaders to coaching: the board mandate, the proactive edge-seeker, and the nightmare that wakes you up at 2 am. Mandated coaching rarely works. Pain is what actually creates space for real change.
- The Awareness, Intention, Experiment, Reflection (A-I-E-R) model: how to move from reaction to reflection before you blow it, borrowed from elite sport and applied directly to leadership behaviour.
- The seduction of solving: every time you answer a question your team could have answered themselves, you get a dopamine hit and they lose a development opportunity. The habit is well-intentioned and quietly destructive.
- Relational equity: your engagement problem is not a culture problem. It is a measurement problem. Jayson explains what to track instead.
- The meerkat story: a COO described by his team as the Grim Reaper rebuilt his entire reputation in six months through deliberate, specific work. This is what that actually looks like.
- What happens when you ask your team "What would make this the best year of your professional career?" and actually wait for the answer: most leaders have never asked it. Most teams have never been asked.
Chapters:
- 0:00 — Introduction
- 1:29 — Jayson's path: from national team athlete to executive coach
- 3:57 — Coaching without having been there: the asset nobody talks about
- 6:18 — The three triggers for coaching
- 9:32 — Why leaders default to tactics over self-awareness
- 11:56 — The question every leader needs to sit with
- 13:41 — "Subtle is significant": the bobsled lesson that changes how you run a team
- 19:01 — How values get weaponized — and what to do before it happens
- 22:14 — The AIER model: awareness, intention, experiment, reflection
- 27:35 — The dopamine trap: why you keep solving problems that aren't yours to solve
- 33:09 — The risk of certainty (and the illusion hiding inside it)
- 40:27 — The CFO who became the Grim Reaper — and then became a meerkat
- 49:05 — Relational equity: the only engagement metric that actually matters
- 54:29 — Joe's story: what happens when a leader refuses the narrative
- 1:03:15 — The skin-covered Petri dish: why the leader's culture is always ground zero
- 1:09:02 — Canada vs. the US: same humans, different appetite for investment
- 1:11:16 — Jayson's parting challenge
Connect with Jayson Krause: linkedin.com/in/jayson-krause
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