This week Jess is joined by Joshua Munn, a therapist specialising in OCD and ADHD, for a conversation that's long overdue on this podcast. They get into how to tell OCD and ADHD apart (spoiler: it's not always straightforward), why adapting ERP for ADHD brains actually makes therapy better for everyone, and how ACT and compassion-focused approaches fit into the picture. Expect honest chat about rejection sensitivity, executive functioning, hyperfixation shame, and why the goal was never a neurotypical brain anyway.

Podcast by:

Laura Mole, Adv. Dip, MBACP OCD specialist therapist

and

Jessica Hayes, Msc PGDip, BABCP Accred OCD and perinatal specialist therapist

Edited by Christian Nickson

Special guest Joshua Munn, OCD and ADHD specialist therapist

Website: www.therapywithjosh.co.uk Social media: @therapywith_josh on Instagram and @therapywithjosh on Tiktok

Time stamps:

00:00 What to expect this episode

01:44 Introduction to Josh

02:50 Why Josh started working with OCD and ADHD

03:40 How to differentiate OCD and ADHD

05:50 Not aiming for a neurotypical brain

06:20 Rejection sensitivity and OCD

09:00 Imposter syndrome in ADHD and OCD

10:30 What executive functioning difficulties people may notice

12:40 ADHD adaptions for OCD therapy

17:00 What ACT therapy is and how it works with OCD and ADHD

22:00 Neurodivergence and parenting

25:33 Making ERP more ADHD friendly

27:30 Visualising characters for OCD

29:20 OCD leading to low mood in ADHD

31:00 ADHD and boredom

34:33 Neurodivergence and OCD Venn diagrams

36:56 Attention training and music

39:10 Hyperfixations and shame

39:35 Healthy guilt vs OCD guilt

42:52 Josh's favourite tips for OCD and ADHD

45:20 Session adaptions for people with ADHD

48:00 Being mindful of how much OCD content you consume

50:36 Considerations for medication

53:49 Question from the listeners

56:22 Exposure Lab

58:00 Goodbyes

Get in Touch:

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Content Warnings:

We do reference some thoughts that people may find distressing so please listen with caution if this is you, and take a break if you need to.

Disclaimer:

This podcast provides educational content only and is not a substitute for professional mental health support, please contact a mental health professional for advice and support.